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Tuesday, February 18, 2025

Edmonton Light Rail Transit (LRT)

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_LRT#History Unlike what backwards Vancouver would end up doing, Edmonton understood the importance of having long underground stations, right from the start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Line#Stations If you are from Edmonton or Seattle, you will be immediately surprised as to how short & small the underground Vancouver train stations are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_station_(Edmonton) 1978

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Churchill_LRT_station_platform_facing_Clareview_and_NAIT%2C_11-04-2023.jpg 

"The underground station has a 129-metre-long (423 ft) centre loading platform that can accommodate two five-car LRT trains at the same time, with one train on each side of the platform. At just under 8 m wide (26 ft), the underground platform is narrow by current Edmonton LRT design guidelines." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_station_(Edmonton)#Station_layout

Yet, this is big by narrowminded Vancouver & BC standards. Despite Vancouver having its own version of cold & crappy weather, there just isn't the same concept or desire to have a network of elevated & especially, underground corridors like what Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Dallas & Houston have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_station_(Edmonton) 1978

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay/Enterprise_Square_station 1983 Being from wattered down Vancouver, it's hard to fathom a 130m long underground station in Edmonton, but Albertal doesn't have anything like a backwards BC mentality to contend with. The first 2 SkyTrain lines were designed to only have 80m stations. The 3rd line to Richmond & YVR, was only designed to have 50m stations. While this initially might have made sense as a cost saving measure, it will cost so much more to eventually try to lengthen these short stations. Thus, all the stations should have been designed to eventually be at least 153m, or just over 500 feet. 

"The station has a 130-metre-long (430 ft) centre loading platform that can accommodate two five-car LRT trains at the same time, with one train on each side of the platform." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay/Enterprise_Square_station#Station_layout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_station_(Edmonton) 1983

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Centre_station 1989

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_station_(Edmonton) 1992 It remains to be scene if Vancouver might have a UBC station by 2032. While geology & climate can vary between cities, the laws of physics in the BC part of Canada isn't supposed to be different. Yet, it takes a long time to get things done in backwater BC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Line#Stations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_light_rail_systems


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Tuesday, November 26, 2024

Calgary vs. Edmonton

 https://dailyhive.com/calgary/alberta-calgary-edmonton-real-estate-buy-homes

Calgary has a lot more tall buildings.

https://www.calgary.com/blog/calgary-vs-edmonton-ab

Edmonton has a cool downtown LRT subway.

Of course having the tallest skyscrapers & the longest subway stations in Western_Canada doesn't matter to a lot of people.

If you are from Calgary & visit Vancouver, you will be surprised as to how small most of the buildings are in Vancouver. If you are visiting from Edmonton, you will be surprised to see how much shorter the underground SkyTrain stations are when compared to the downtown LRT subway in Edmonton.

If you are from Edmonton, you will be surprised to see how small backwater Victoria, BC is, despite it being in a mild winter climate. Edmonton isn't just a mighty provincial Capital, it's almost on the same urban scale as Perth, WA. That's despite Edmonton being in a very cold winter climate zone.

Fortunately, BC was never able to gobble up Alberta, or strongly influence it. BC stopped a huge destination mall from being built in the 1980s. However, BC wasn't able to stop the West_Edmonton_Mall from being built.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Edmonton_Mall#West_Edmonton_Mall_Transit_Centre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Line_(Edmonton)#Valley_Line_West_(under_construction)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/ETS_LRT_System_%28long-term%29.svg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_LRT#Overview_of_planned_lines



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Tuesday, June 4, 2024

Edmonton Oilers gearing up for Stanley Cup final against Florida Panthers

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-oilers-gearing-up-for-stanley-cup-final-against-florida-panthers-1.7222766

One would have to go far back into modern history to see a time when Edmonton was just another Canadian provincial backwater. 

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/edmonton-oilers/latest-news/oilers-break-multiple-nhl-records-with-win

It's been since at least the early 1960s that Edmonton knew it wasn't going be be just another northern backwater town like Prince-George. Indeed, PG has yet to reach 100K, while the Edmonton_Metropolitan_Region has 1.5 million people.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10542696/edmonton-oilers-fans-playoffs-2024/

Of course Edmonton has very cold winters, in contrast to mild Victoria. Yet, Edmonton is a growing mighty northern capital, while temperate Victoria remains as stunted BC provincial backwater.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers-matthew-tkachuk-nhl-stanley-cup-showdown


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Tuesday, February 18, 2025

Monday, October 6, 2025

Edmonton vs. Vancouver, etc.

Edmonton has one tower thats taller than anything in BC. However, Burnaby and Surrey will eventually rival it. Despite more people wanting to move to Vancouver, perhaps to avoid the -20C to -30C Canadian winters. However, some people are determined to make sure that Vancouver never has any building taller than what's in Edmonton & especially Calgary & Seattle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton#Public_transit Unfortunatly, any underground train station in backwards Vancouver was designed to be shorter than the underground train stations in Edmonton & Seattle. While the trains in Vancouver can be more frequent, short stations keep the trains short and pathetic.

Despite the SkyTrain being a multibillion dollar system, the underground stations are only 80 metres on the first 2 lines. The Canada (embassament) Line only has 50 metre stations. In contrast, the Montreal Metro has 152.5 metre stations. At least the underground stations in Edmonton are in the 125 to 130 metre range and even longer in Seattle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Edmonton 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kurt-b/51118510836

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Edmonton_Skyline_from_Blatchford.jpg 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/J.W._Marriott_Edmonton_Ice_District_%26_Stantec_Tower This is taller than any current building in BC. The shorter tower would be the second tallest if it was in Vancouver. 

No bridge in Vancouver is allowed to be as wide as the widest in Edmonton.

Even when the Granville+Bridge used to have 8 lanes, there were no emergency lanes and 2 narrow, uneven sidewalks. Where as the newer Quesnell+Bridge still has 8 lanes, plus 2 emergency lanes & a wide sidewalk.

Tuesday, February 18, 2025

Edmonton is the biggest provincial capital after Toronto.

 https://dailyhive.com/edmonton/edmonton-weather-forecast-temperature-change-alberta

Despite the severity of such cold winters, that never seem to reach down to mild Vancouver & Victoria, Edmonton is quite a thriving northern city. The decades of being a provincial outpost with waggon roads, are long gone.

https://dailyhive.com/edmonton/edmonton-weather-forecast-temperature-change-heat

One might think that since Greater Victoria is the most mild provincial capital region in Canada, it might have at least the same population as Edmonton. It can't even match Winnipeg and Q. City, or even Halifax. Unfortunatly, almost living anywhere is expensive, but if you don't want to endure the real harsh Canadian winters, then Victoria to Nanaimo and Vancouver to Abbotsford, are the best choices.

However, BC has been reluctant to properly keep up with is infrastructure. 

Saturday, December 21, 2024

$3.3M Edmonton home that's SO noticeable from the James McDonald Bridge

 https://dailyhive.com/edmonton/edmonton-home-for-sale-james-mcdonald-bridge


Fortunately, the 6 lane James_MacDonald_Bridge hasn't been Vancoverized. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_MacDonald_Bridge What would have happened if this 2 way bridge was Vancouverized? 1 or 2 lanes would have been removed to apparently, reduce congestion.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/James+Macdonald+Bridge,+Edmonton,+AB

Unlike backwards Vancouver, Edmonton & Calgary have been able to build more bike bridges. Thus, by building more bike bridges, there is no need to Vancouverize the main trafic bridges. 

If you are from Edmonton or Calgary, or Seattle, WA or Perth, WA & visit Vancouver, you will be in for quite a shock. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambie_Bridge Was 6 lanes, now 5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrard_Bridge  Was 6 lanes, now 4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Street_Bridge Was 8 lanes, now 6.

Unfortunatly, to counteract the mostly narrow bridges in Greater Vancouver, there should have been a series of Bus, bike & truck bridges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Street_Bridge Only 4 lanes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Street Only 4 lanes in the middle of the bridge. One of the best examples of BC bottleneck planning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Laing_Bridge Only 4 lanes.

Wednesday, October 22, 2025

Ground broken for three towers at north end of Victoria's downtown

 https://www.biv.com/news/ground-broken-for-three-towers-at-north-end-of-victorias-downtown-11378830 

Despite Victoria being the most mild winter city in Canada, it was supposed to be a provincial backwater for as long as possible. Buildings were to be kept smaller than the tallest in Edmonton, QC, Winnipeg & Halifax.

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=37&status=15

In typical upside-down BC fashion, Edmonton is a mighty capital in cold winter Northern Alberta, while Victoria excels as a stunted & thwarted small city in mild SW BC.

Before Victoria could ever rival Edmonton, it would first have to rival Halifax, then Winnipeg and then Quebec_City

Perhaps someday, Regina might equal or rival Winnipeg, but not likely Edmonton. After TorontoEdmonton is the largest of the Canadian provincial capitals. Both cities are worlds away from the extreme imposed restrictions of Vancouver and Victoria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada#Demographics

Monday, October 13, 2025

Majority polled in Calgary and Edmonton are unhappy with the pace of population growth

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/too-much-too-fast-majority-polled-in-calgary-edmonton-unhappy-with-pace-of-population-growth-9.6935121 

If you are visiting Vancouver or Victoria from Calgary or Edmonton, you will be shocked as to how narrow most of the bridges are in Greater Vancouver and Victoria. Edmonton was wise in the 1970s to have 125 m long underground LRT stations. Foolish Vancouver opted to only have 80 m stations on its first 2 lines and an absurd 50 m for the 3rd line. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Calgary) , https://www.calgary.ca/green-line.html 

https://www.calgarytransit.com/plans---projects/lrt/green-line.html

https://engage.calgary.ca/greenline/UndergroundStations Fortunatly, any underground stations in Calgary will be closer in length to that of the Edmonton LRT and not backwards Vancouver.

https://www.railjournal.com/regions/north-america/tunnel-preferred-for-calgary-lrt-green-line/

https://www.tunnelsandtunnelling.com/news/calgary-city-council-approves-green-line-lrt-construction/?cf-view

https://www.calgary.ca/green-line/stations.html

https://www.tunnelsandtunnelling.com/news/calgary-city-council-approves-green-line-lrt-construction/?cf-view 

The main roads and bridges in urban parts of Alberta are allowed to be wider than their counterparts in backwards BC. So while people in the urban parts of Alberta are concerned or even angry about rapid growth, at least Alberta can easily build more urban infrastructure. That's because Albertal isn't affect by the (unofficial) BC Mind Virus (BCMV). 

A timely example is a new bridge between Surrey & NW. Despite Surrey being expected to become the largest city in BC, the new bridge will only open with 4 lanes. No 3rd or 4th lane each way for busses, HOVs and trucks. Thus, all the road traffic at either end is funneled into just 2 lanes each way. Plus, there are no breakdown or emergency lane, just like the old bridge.   

While this new bridge can eventually be widened to 6 lanes, there is no provision for a lower deck for LRT, busses and trucks. Despite SW BC being a seaport area, trucks are funneled onto mostly narrow bridges. There has been a lack of interest to build bus bridges next to almost all of the bridges in Greater Vancouver. Yet, there is a Half-A$$ED attempt to have a better regional express bus network. This regional Rapid Bus attempt will always be a joke, unless a series of bus bridges are built. The Half-A$$ED approach is to try to have bus lanes on 4 to 6 lane bridges. Designating 2 bus lanes would reduce the narrow bridges to only 1 or 2 lanes each way for general traffic in what is suppose to be a major seaport and urban area.   

Most of the worlds population is non-white and for a big part of the history of BC, there has been a refusal to build up bigtime infrastructure for everyone. While some Albertains might wish that there was a wall built around their province or a force-field like out of Star Trek, BC is almost pretending like there is. Thus, the keep things small and backwards mentality. 

Several decades ago, BC implemented a symbolic slow-growth approach. Despite BC not having any control over immigration, or trying to establish an internal passport & checkpoint system, to KEEP PEOPLE OUT, it opted for the next best thing. Stunt or scale back the urban infrastructure to project a strong symbolic reluctance to growth and thinking big. 

When you realize how much larger things are allowed to be in Alberta, Washington State and even Western Australia & compare them to watered down BC, you see quite a difference. Despite BC & Canada in general, being multicultural, BCs cities keep finding ways to water the scale of things down. Canada has yet to have even 1% of the world's population, despite its size.  

While there are good arguments to occasionally slowdown immigration, that can eventually become problematic, just like too much immigration. Even in the 2020s, some people in the former White colonial parts of the world still wish that Canada & Australia, etc., could be a White Man's paradise. However, that seems so impractical on a planet that mostly has a non white population. 

https://humanrights.ca/story/chinese-head-tax-and-chinese-exclusion-act

https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/chinese-head-tax-in-canada 

https://royalalbertamuseum.ca/blog/chinese-head-tax-george-yees-story 

https://www.musee-mccord-stewart.ca/en/blog/chinese-exclusion-act/

https://parks.canada.ca/culture/designation/evenement-event/exclusion-chinois-chinese

https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/campaigns/asian-heritage-month/important-events.html

https://stanleyparkvan.com/stanley-park-van-monument-komagata-maru.html

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/10/05/vancouver-komagata-maru-memorial

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/01/30/vancouver-komagata-maru-memorial-vandalism/

Even if Alberta were to eventually become its own country, it would be extremely unlikely that it could ever impose a White Man's Paradise Agenda. The same could be stated for backwards BC. However, something very peculiar has been happening in BC for several generations. 

Several BC cities and municipalities play off each other with various slow-growth agendas. Vancouver being one of the most restrictive & backwards on the the planet. Somehow the legitimate anti freeway fears of the 1960s & 70s didn't get the city & region to still build a series of bus & HOV bridges. Plus, a long-term, high capacity urban rail system.

While Montreal planned for 152.4 m stations to accomodate 9 car trains, backwards Vancouver only built 80 m Skytrain stations for the first 2 lines. Then to top that, was a plan to build a line to Richmond with only enough level clearance for 50 m stations. The 1st line only started to run 5 car trains in 2025. Eventually, the 2nd line will also have 5 car trains. However, the line to the airport was deliberately designed not to have 5 car trains. Just a Half-A$$ED 2.5 car train, someday. WTH?

For Greater Vancouver to mostly have narrow bridges, one would think the all the stations could ultimately be at least as long as a Montreal Metro train station. Indeed, Greater Vancouver should have built for 10 car trains, but will only have 5 car trains on the 1st  two lines & a 2.5 car joke of a train on the 3rd line. As of 2025, the 2nd & 3rd lines are still only running 2 car trains. Such a great way to symbolically show the resistance to eventually link YVR to both of the main BC ferry terminals. 

The inadequate 3 lane Lion Bridge still has no bus & HOV tunnels near it. Urban parts of Australia never seemed to have a similar reluctance to build tunnels as does backwards Vancouver. Tunnels for Montreal & Seattle aren't a problem either. At least BC is slated to have a new and improved tunnel by 2030, that's only a couple of generations late.   

Oh, if only people would stop moving to BC, especially Vancouver & Victoria. Well, that's not the case, its just that various BC cities want to only build urban infrastructure that is inadequate. Despite the frustrations that some people have in Alberta, at lest wider bridges, longer trains & taller buildings are allowed there. This watering things down in BC approach is symbolically indicative to refuse to properly build for a growing population. 

Surrey should have already had at least 1 hospital the size of VGH. At least Surrey like Burnaby, can build up taller in what is still mostly a mountain wilderness province. 

BC is a long way from New England & Southern Quebec. The restrictive urban planning measures in Greater Vancouver keep preventing it from becoming a proper big metropolitan area like Greater Boston and Montreal. 

Calgary and Edmonton each should have hand an airport+line by now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(MBTA) Calgary will have its own version of a Green Line, eventually. https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Calgary+Green+Line

Friday, May 16, 2025

Edmonton's high level bridge streetcar

https://exploreedmonton.com/attractions-and-experiences/high-level-bridge-streetcar

Even though it's a small attempt, Edmonton was able to reactivate a portion of its old streetcar system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Level_Bridge_Streetcar

https://www.edmontonstreetcars.ca/about/history

 https://www.edmontonstreetcars.ca/highlevelbridge

"It was designed from the outset to accommodate rail, streetcar, two-way automobile, and pedestrian traffic.[2] The original bridge design included three tracks on the upper deck: The middle track was for CPR trains, and the two outer tracks were for streetcars." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Level_Bridge_(Edmonton)

The High_Level_Bridge opened in 1913 & had 1 heavy rail track in the middle & a streetcar track on either side. Even by 2013, backwards Vancouver didn't have a triple track railway bridge within its city limits. Indeed, by 2025, its been tough enough to have a double track freight train bridge & a double track commuter rail bridge within the Greater Vancouver Region. Fortunately, the SkyTrain is at least double tracked, except for the end of the line in Richmond.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Level_Bridge_(Edmonton)#Modifications

https://globalnews.ca/news/3335890/wider-sidewalks-lrt-tracks-and-shared-use-paths-on-edmontons-high-level-bridge-to-be-studied/

Vancouver was one of the first cities to get rid of them and will likely be one of the last cities to bring them back. Things are more possible in Alberta, simply because its a separate jurisdiction & mentality than backwater BC.

Thursday, October 16, 2025

Edmonton LRT and Calgary C Train

 https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Edmonton+LRT While Edmonton had a good head start over Calgary, they understood even back in the 1970s to build their underground stations to be at least 125 m.

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Calgary+C+Train Fortunately, Calgary will follow the Edmonton example to have underground stations that are longer than what foolish Vancouver has. 


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Monday, November 25, 2024

Edmonton city council discusses how to help newcomers


"The city is preparing to hit a population of two million, which means an increase in Edmontonians using city services." https://edmonton.citynews.ca/2024/11/25/edmonton-city-council-helping-newcomers



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Monday, April 15, 2024

The proposed plan to redevelop Metropolis at Metrotown mall

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/metropolis-at-metrotown-mall-redevelopment-master-plan-concept

No chance now of BC ever having a mall as big as the West_Edmonton_Mallhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Edmonton_Mall#Future_developments

However, Burnaby will gradually get to have a dense downtown core with potentially some taller buildings than Edmonton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Edmonton_Mall#West_Edmonton_Mall_Transit_Centre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_at_Metrotown#Transportation Perhaps the WE Mall might eventually become like a 2n core for Edmonton. However, since Vancouver won't permit buildings to be taller than the tallest in Montreal, Calgary & Edmonton. Thus, Burnaby, CoquitlamSurrey will have to take on that roll. 

Metrotown_station will become the key downtown core stop in Burnaby. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_shopping_centres_in_Canada

For most of Canada's history, it was about keeping out or at least slowing down the influx of non-white people. Then in more recent years, its been about using environmental concerns to keep Canada in a perpetual slow growth mode, except for a few cities. Canada still doesn't even have half of 1% of the world's population. Yet, it's the 2nd or 3rd largest county in overall area. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005-eng.htm 41 million people. How is it that so many other countries can accommodate more people? Better urban planning can make all the difference.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/02/canadas-population-passing-42-million-in-2024-and-50-million-by-2031.html

https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/subjects-start/population_and_demography

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population , https://www.census.gov/popclock/world

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/


https://www.un.org/en/desa/world-population-projected-reach-98-billion-2050-and-112-billion-2100