YVR-Canada Line and REM Train in Montreal

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ouk0VifwM&t=42s Its as if the YVR-Canada Line had to be built as a symbolically small city train for provincial Vancouver. Urban transportation infrastructure can be designed in ways that can double or even triple capacity to meet future demand. Unfortunately, its very difficult to build anything in backwards BC with significant future capacity in mind.

Ultimately, the YVR-Canada Line should have had level station clearances to eventually be able to accommodate 5-10 car trains. Unfortunately, in typical backwards BC planning the stations weren't even designed with enough level clearance to accommodate 5 car trains. The joke that is the Canada Line only has a level station clearance of 50m to eventually accommodate just a 2.5 car train. 

Most other cities actually build long stations to accommodate long trains, right in the first place. Or, at least allow for enough level clearance so that the stations can eventually be doubled or tripled in length. 

The YVR-Canada Line should have started with the Vancouver & Richmond segment, then the Vancouver and Horseshoe+Bay+ferry+terminal segment. Then finally, the YVR to Delta and the Tsawwassen+ferry+terminal through a proper Richmond-Delta+Tunnel or bridge crossing. 

The short SkyTrain Stations in Greater Vancouver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qg78Bmf1fk

Unfortunately, proper big city transportation planning is very difficult to achieve in backwards BC. So many things are watered down in small-scale Vancouver.

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Montreal’s Biggest REM Expansion Yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G1oeIAfxDU&t=106s 

The Montreal REM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9O6RzsXIqQ 

While the REM was designed to help the Metro, it should have the capability to be gradually expanded. Eventually, REM trains should be lengthened from 4 car trains to 6 car trains, perhaps even 8. 

In contrast, every Skytrain line should have been designed with enough level future station clearance to eventually accommodate a train as long as a 152.5 m (500 ft.) long Montreal Metro train. The first 2 Skytrain lines have 80m stations and the joke that is the Canada Line only has 50m stations. 

While the first 2 lines can accommodate 5 car trains, the C Line wasn't designed to accommodate 5 car trains. Just 2.5 car trains, someday. 

Despite there being such a symbolic push for Vancouver to keep having short trains, narrow bridges and stumpy buildings, things are gradually changing in backwards BC. The Vancouver or BC Mind Virus should have been challenged decades ago, but too many loud people wanted to perpetuate the, KEEP THINGS SMALL AND INDEQUATE agenda.

Given how most of the bridges in Greater Vancouver are so narrow, there isn't enough room for proper bus and HOV lanes, or even wide emergency lanes. One would think that at least the trains & stations would have been designed to eventually be doubled or tripled in length. But that would go against the mutigenerational congestive planning agenda. That's why there still is only a 3 lane LGB when there should have been at least a parallel bus, HOV and train tunnel. The Pattullo+Bridge replacement didn't open with 2 bus and 2 HOV lanes, not even wide shoulders or emergency lanes. NW really likes the congestive planning approach. Of course the new tunnel between Richmond and Delta won't have an additional provision for a train tube. This will also help to perpetuate the congestive transportation mandate. 

Fortunately, Selective_door_operation technology can eventually allow more sensible transportation planners to enable longer trains. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_door_operation#International_variations , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdH5d1ZthmM 

This means that a 5 car Skytrain (85m) could eventually become a 7 car train, despite the 80m stations. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)_rolling_stock#Alstom_Mark_V Thus, an 80m train can become a 117m train.

A two car and 2.5 car (50m) train on the multibillion dollar Canada Line is so absurd and inept! With some slight station modifications, there could be a potential to eventually accommodate three, 20m cars at the very short platforms. Then, once 3 car trains could become possible, its just a matter of having an extra 20m car at both ends of each train. Thus, a 5 car train of 100m is so much better than a 50m joke of a train. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#Alstom_Mark_V_fleet 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=SkyTrain-Canada+Line

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

Montreal Metro, REM train vs. Vancouver SkyTrain comparison

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/montreal-rem-vancouver-skytrain-comparison 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9seau_express_m%C3%A9tropolitain#Main_line

If the SkyTrain could ever have significantly longer stations & longer trains, then it might become on a similar capacity level as the Montreal Metro. Indeed, the SkyTrain should not only be significantly longer that the REM train, but eventually as long as a Montreal Metro train.

The first 2 SkyTrain lines should have had stations that could eventually accommodate 10 car trains. The slightly upgraded stations will only be able to accommodate the newest 5 car trains, not 10 or even 8 cars. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom_Metropolis_Saint-Laurent#Comparison_with_Montreal_Metro_trains

The YVR-Canada_Line should have been started with 5 car trains, but the stations were only designed to accommodate a 2.5 car joke of a train. The absurdly short stations are only 50 m and don't have enough level clearance to become 100 m, especially not 150 m. Its a fine example of how Vancouver just can't seem to properly plan for growing infrastructure demands. The Montreal Metro has stations that are 152.5 m (500'), which can accommodate 9 car trains. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9seau_express_m%C3%A9tropolitain#Stations

A 4 car REM train with selective door technology could allow an extra car at each end to become a 6 car train. If there is enough level station clearance for significant extension, then the REM could easily run 6 or maybe even 8 car trains. Selective door technology is really good for trains limited to short platforms. It easily allows a 2 car extension of a shorter train. However, its still better that any half-length station has enough space for proper expansion. 

Fortunately, the Edmonton_LRT underground stations were far enough away from the influence of the backwards BC planning mentality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Line#Stations

Churchill	Underground	Metro Line  Valley Line[a]	Downtown	April 22, 1978	53°32′39″N 113°29′21″W
Central	Underground	Metro Line	Downtown	April 22, 1978	53°32′28″N 113°29′31″W
Bay/Enterprise Square	Underground	Metro Line	Downtown	June 21, 1983	53°32′27″N 113°29′54″W
Corona	Underground	Metro Line	Downtown	June 21, 1983	53°32′27″N 113°30′21″W
Government Centre	Underground	Metro Line	Downtown	September 1989	53°32′10″N 113°30′37″W
University	Underground	Metro Line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Line#Stations 

Despite the Seattle Link_light_rail being much closer to backwards Vancouver than Edmonton is, Seattle had no problem with having longer underground stations than what's in shortsighted BC. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Line_(Sound_Transit)#Stations 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Line_(Sound_Transit)#Stations 

Fortunately, the Skyline_(Honolulu) like the REM can easily run 4 car trains, while the YVR-Canada Line is still just running 2 car joke trains.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_(Honolulu)#Route 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_(Honolulu)#Rolling_stock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_(Honolulu)#Timeline_of_progress

The backwards BC mindset, or the BC Mind Virus hasn't been able to influence Alberta & Washington State, Hawaii & Australia... 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

Why New York City has a Two-Car Subway Train and provincial Vancouver is stuck with a 2 car airport train

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH37SqlW0Ks 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Avenue_Shuttle 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R68_(New_York_City_Subway_car) 75-foot (22.86 m) length for each car. So roughly, a 2 car joke of a train is almost 46 m, or 150 ft. The absurd Canada_Line-Stations with its 2 car trains are in the 40 m to 50 m range. Thus, only two car & 2.5 car trains are only possible. In contrast, a 9 car Montreal_Metro train can be up to 152.5 m, or 500 ft.

Train length	2 car train: 150 feet (46 m) 4 car train: 300 feet (91 m) 8 car train: 600 feet (180 m)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R68_(New_York_City_Subway_car)#Description So, an 8 car, 600 foot long train is 100 feet longer than a 500 foot, 9 car Montreal train. 

The end of the line for the Franklin_Avenue_Shuttle is only a single track platform. 

Unfortunately, the YVR and the Richmond end if the Canada_Line stations are also a single track platforms. Even if this was initially decided as a cost saving measure, a double track guideway still should have been built. Then, a proper double track station could eventually be completed. Especially if the line is ever extended to the Delta Ferry terminal.

The YVR-Airport_station was deliberately designed to be narrower and shorter than what a proper big city airport station should be. Its another example of the unofficial BCMV reducing and thwarting the scale of things. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_Airport_station Almost like REM quality for Toronto, but not for provincial Vancouver. https://www.upexpress.com/en/up-express-stations/pearson-station , https://www.torontopearson.com/en/transportation-and-parking/up-express Wow, Toronto like Perth can run 3 car big city type trains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pearson_Express#Rolling_stock Vancouver can only hope for a 2.5 car train, someday. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pearson_Express#Route Sometimes, a 2 car joke of a train might be OK to start with, but there should already be enough station clearance for at least 3-5 car trains. Then, as long as its a walk-through train, Selective_Door_Operation (SDO) can make it possible to add an extra car at both ends of a short train. SDO can be an intermediate step before having to extensively lighten each station. 

Stubborn, backwards Vancouver will eventually have to seriously consider SDO in order to have longer big city type trains. Unfortunately, as long as its stuck in the BC backwater mentality or under the spell of the BCMV, things won't improve.

https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/news/projects/2026/05/montreals-airport-rem-station-will-have-signature-iceberg-motif , https://montrealgazette.com/news/rem-has-begun-testing-trains-on-airport-branch Of course the YUL-P.E. Trudeau_station, like the Honolulu Airport station, will be longer and wider than the one at YVR.

Perhaps the short, single track & platform at the YVR-Airport_Station would be impressive if it were in Victoria, Prince George, Kamloops or Kelowna, but its hardly impressive when compared to the SeaTac/Airport_station, Portland_Airport_station, Lelepaua_station in Honolulu, Brisbane_Airport station, Sydney_Airport stations, the future Melbourne_Airport station and Perth_Airport station. The scale of the San_Francisco_International_Airport_station, which can accommodate 10 car trains, is on a whole other scale. All major airports and their train stations in Asia & Europe are so far beyond what Canada has. There is no reason as to why Greater Vancouver and some other cities in BC, can't be upgraded to a Pacific Rim infrastructure level, instead of  being stuck in a perpetual BC backwater mindset. 

The VMV, under the umbrella of the larger BCMV, is such a horrible impediment and it doesn't even officially exist. 

Montreal Metro and the REM Train

 https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/montreal-metro A 9 car train is what one would expect for big city thinking, planning and development. 

It would have been total chaos if the Montreal_Metro (MM) only had 80m stations, just like on the first 2 SkyTrain lines in Vancouver. An absolute disaster if it only had 50m stations like on the very underbuilt Canada Line. Unfortunately, Vancouver took the watered down approach, decades after what Montreal did right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Metro#Rolling_stock

When starting in the 1960s, the MM could have 3 & 6 car trains and a 9 car train during busy times, in recent decades, it's just 6 and 9 car trains.

Streetcars and trams, along with buses, can help any Metro train or Subway system. Unlike Montreal and Vancouver, cities like Melbourne, Toronto, Boston, Philadelphia, SF and New Orleans, retained some of their tram or streetcar lines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPM-10 

9 articulated cars per train

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPM-10#Specifications

Of course a good urban transportation network keeps evolving and the REM trains are a nice addition. The REM trains should eventually be at least as long as those on the Sydney Subway.

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Montreal+Metro

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Montreal

REM’s snow struggles persist in Montreal

 https://www.montrealgazette.com/news/article760907.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reseau_express_metropolitain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom_Metropolis_Saint-Laurent

Train length	38.1 m (125 ft) per unit
Car length	19.05 m (62 ft 6 in) over coupler faces

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom_Metropolis_Saint-Laurent#Design_and_construction Two 125 foot trains = 250 feet, or half the length of a 9 car Metro train.

An 8 car [19.05 m (62 ft 6 inch)] REM train version of this would be great for Vancouver, but an improved Skytrain could be just as good. Unfortunatly, BC has a tough time thinking big for the future.

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2025/02/18/rem-service-disruptions-continue/

However, any elevated line or exposed rapid transit train in Montreal, is always potentially disrupted during the winter.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-rem-out-of-service-1.7461000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9seau_express_m%C3%A9tropolitain#Future_sections

The genius of the Montreal_Metro trains is that they are all underground.

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2025/02/17/stormy-weather-continues-in-montreal/

Vancouver & BC always have a difficult time in properly planning & building infrastructure for significant future capacity. Thus, just because the SkyTrain is considered to be a Light Rail Vehicle, it still should have been designed to eventually have (152.5m) long trains, like the Montreal Metro has. If you are visiting from Montreal or Toronto, you will be shocked as to how short the Vancouver SkyTrains & stations are. 

It's not that BC is in some kind of a timewarp, it's just that there has been some kind of a strange multigenerational mentality or agenda. Since the BC part of Canada doesn't have the authority or the technology to generate a force_field around its perimeter, the next best thing was to have very restrictive laws. That's especially the case for Vancouver & Victoria. Plus, a general encouragement to symbolically think small & backwards. 

Having short trains, narrow bridges & mostly short buildings, all fits in with the symbolism of a reluctance to accommodate significant urban growth. Canada it self is also part of this larger predicament. Despite its size, Canada is nowhere close to containing even just 1% of the worlds population. Given that most of the human population is non-white, this poses an interesting dilemma. 

Of course during tougher economic times, immigration is generally frowned upon. However, even during various economic boom-times, Vancouver & Victoria continued to lag behind with the scale of its infrastructure development.

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train 

Congestive urban planning in backwards BC

Most bridges in Greater Vancouver are so narrow, because there was no provision to have bus and HOV lanes. The+Lion+Bridge+and+The+Iron+Bridge are 2 classic examples of not constructing additional infrastructure to accommodate bus lanes, HOV lanes and especially, rail rapid transit. That's because such improvements would actually go against the congestive urban planning agenda. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacey_V._Murrow_Memorial_Bridge , https://www.historylink.org/file/21298 A narrow 4 lane BC type bridge was upgraded to an 8 lane crossing, plus 2 LRT tracks for WA. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrows_Bridge_(Perth) From a basic bridge to a nice 10 lane crossing with 2 train tracks for WA. https://structurae.net/en/structures/narrows-bridge Its great that the horrible backwards Vancouver mentality never made it to Perth. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-13/perth-narrows-bridge-60-years-since-construction/11697812 Unfortunately, Vancouver & BC have done their darndest to prevent a similar nice, wide crossing, which also includes 6_car_trains. While backwards Vancouver & BC didn't want to build wider infrastructure simply to accommodate more drivers, the funds didn't seem to go towards a regional rapid bus or at least an express bus & HOV network with its own set of bridges. The SkyTrain should have been designed with a provision to eventually have stations at least as long as those on the Montreal Metro, which can accommodate 9 car trains on a 500 ft platform or 152.5 m. https://heritage.engineersaustralia.org.au/wiki/Place:Constructing_Narrows_Bridges  

The old Champlain_Bridge_in Montreal just had 3 lanes each way & no provision for a train. Where as the new Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge provides 4 lanes each way & has 2 REM train tracks. https://www.samueldechamplainbridge.ca Fortunately, Montreal, like Seattle & Perth was able to have a nice wide bridge with 2 train tracks in the middle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge#Construction_method 

Montreal, Seattle & Perth are allowed to exist on a larger scale than backwards Vancouver, because they don't have the same imposed restrictions. Urban Quebec and urban WA are able to do so much more, because they aren't hindered by anything like the backwards BC mentality. 

Risk assessment model of bottlenecks for urban expressways using survival analysis approach https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235214651730474X 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bunbury+WA+6230,+Australia/@-33.3399232,115.6694676,430a,35y,44.83t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x2a39279b2423314b:0x500f638247a10a0!2sVancouver+Peninsula+WA+6330,+Australia!3b1!8m2!3d-35.0599149!4d117.9307564!16s%2Fg%2F11fmh3xt4l!3m5!1s0x2a2e1d48f5a47b23:0x500f638247a1470!8m2!3d-33.3270366!4d115.6408605!16zL20vMDEycTcx?entry=ttu

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Perth+and+Seattle 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=urban

The Montreal (REM) light rail line on the 8 lane Samuel-De Champlain Bridge

 https://www.planetizen.com/news/2023/08/124945-new-rem-light-rail-launches-montreal

As long as the REM trains can eventually become double their length, then Montreal can avoid the Vancouver LRT delema. While short and frequent trains can be an initial cost saving measure, there should always be a provision to eventually have longer stations and trains. The joke that is the Canada Line wasn't designed to ever have stations long enough to accomodate 5 car trains. The ridiculous 2 car trains can only be lengthened up to a 2.5 car train, due to the absurd 50m stations. 

https://rem.info/en/map

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/national-news/new-montreal-light-rail-train-line-saw-two-service-interruptions-on-day-of-launch-7353740

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-light-rail-transit-system-shuts-down-on-1st-official-day-of-service-1.6500552

https://rem.info/en/reseau-express-metropolitain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Samuel-De+Champlain+Bridge

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Montreal

REM Train system

https://dailyhive.com/montreal/construction-work-underground-starts-rem-electric-train-system

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

A Speculative Map of Montreal Metro-REM-EXO

 https://www.reddit.com/r/TransitDiagrams/comments/1w9apwg/oc_montreal_metroremexo_speculative_map/ 

What if Montreal could have a Paris scale of transportation infrastructure? Unfortunately, Greater Montreal hasn't reached the 5 million point yet, let alone 10 million people. Thus, the really big city stuff is still quite a ways off. 

At least Montreal isn't stuck with a 3 lane LGB. So far, Vancouver isn't interested in building an express bus tunnel and an LRT tunnel next to the inadequate LGB. A line from Burrard_station to Park+Royal and the Horseshoe+Bay+ferry+terminal would be getting into proper big city transportation infrastructure. Just like a tunnel between Waterfront station and Lonsdale_Quay would be.

At least Le REM wasn't designed to be a 2 car joke of a train like the YVR-Canada+Line is. 

The stations on the first 2 Skytrain lines are barely half the length of a 9 car Metro station. While a REM station can accommodate a 4 car train, the Canada+Line stations can only accommodate a 2.5 car train, but only 2 car joke trains, so far.

Montreal Metro STM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Or_vNc2Z4&list=RDCMUCf4iKXL_SJQ5d0qsKkboRRQ&index=3 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usk9J-tpzTA&list=RDCMUCf4iKXL_SJQ5d0qsKkboRRQ&index=5

the Montreal Metro, North America's 3rd busiest subway system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfYgsWxqiUg metro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCJPr0UOR3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEiPl-EdHYc REM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnXj0_H71ig&list=RDCMUCf4iKXL_SJQ5d0qsKkboRRQ&index=13 REM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSm9QLHrLw rem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ5Hxor0vAM

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

Service interrupted on Metro's green line, REM back to normal

 https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/public-transit-troubles-service-interrupted-on-metro-s-green-line-rem-back-to-normal-1.7094960

Unlike BC, at least Montreal has a good level of infrastructure, when its working.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/metros-green-line-service-interrupted-again-because-of-water-infiltration

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2024/11/01/service-green-line-montreal-metro/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bonaventure/@45.4985644,-73.5665737,693m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x4cc91a541c64b70d:0x654e3138211fefef!2sMontreal,+QC!3b1!8m2!3d45.5018869!4d-73.5673919!16zL20vMDUycDc!3m5!1s0x4cc91a5d23cb7eb9:0x8cce01ab91b1d89d!8m2!3d45.4980335!4d-73.5668115!16zL20vMDRzNzRu!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

https://www.google.com/maps/place/REM+%C3%8ELE-DES-SOEURS+Station/@45.4703096,-73.5380778,127m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x4cc91a541c64b70d:0x654e3138211fefef!2sMontreal,+QC!3b1!8m2!3d45.5018869!4d-73.5673919!16zL20vMDUycDc!3m5!1s0x4cc911564250dde1:0x6e42f617ef20d4a4!8m2!3d45.4703598!4d-73.5384674!16s%2Fg%2F11t9lr6r37!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Montreal

REM trains in Montreal

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTS6RYr_Vw , https://www.youtube.com/@ReseauexpressmetropolitainREM/videos

Le REM, un nouveau trait d’union https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEu817iPBws

A Ride on the Montreal REM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q23mkh8rX88, https://www.youtube.com/@RMTransit/videos

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

The Mount Royal Tunnel in Montreal

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Royal_Tunnel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Royal_Tunnel#REM

https://rem.info/en/news/first-passage-rem-through-mount-royal-tunnel-and-start-dynamic-testing-area

https://www.montrealgazette.com/news/article144286.html

Even the REM train stations should be expandable to eventually accomodate 6-8 car trains.

The Dunsmuir_Tunnel was rebuilt to become a double deck tunnel providing a split_platform station configuration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_platform#North_America

Unfortunatly, the Burrard_station & Granville_station platforms were only built to be 80m, when they should have been 155m-160m. This would have helped to eventually have 9 car SkyTrains, just like 9 car Montreal Metro trains. 

With proper long-range planning in mind, the SkyTrain should have been planned to eventually be a double length LRT system. Instead, its been challenging enough just to establish 5 car trains on the first 2 lines.

Unfortunatly, the 3rd line or Canada_Line was built to only have 50m, whereas the Montreal Metro has 152.5m long stations.

The Canada_Line_Stations have platforms that are only 50 metres (160 ft) long, when all the stations should have been built with a future clearance of 160m. That would have allowed for a future provision to eventually accommodate at least 8 car trains at each station.

The Iron Bridge and the old Champlain Bridge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Narrows_Crossing 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champlain_Bridge_(Montreal,_1962-2019) Both became classic 6 lane bottlenecks or chokepoints. That's because more than 6 lanes of traffic connected to such bridges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge An 8 lane bridge with 2 REM tracks. While I would like it to have been 10 or 12 lanes with 4 tracks, its still so much better than what backwards Vancouver would allow. 8 lanes plus 2 HOV lanes & 2 bus lanes, because the REM train isn't running 24 hours.

The+Lion+Bridge+and+The+Iron+Bridge are just too inadequate to be modern transportation crossings.

The inept Lion_Bridge should have had bus & train tunnels built next to it decades ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Gate_Bridge An 8 lane road tunnel could allow the Lions-Gate-Bridge to become a foot & bike crossing, but that's what a proper big city would do.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVfdglQUAAEiQZV?format=jpg&name=large Vancouver Stumps vs. Towers.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouvers-shrinking-skyline Holding Vancouver back is what you do when you symbolically don't want to accommodate growth. Whit so much scaled back infrastructure, who knows where the money went?

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Iron+Bridge  

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Lions+Gate+Bridge

Montreal's-rem-is-making-incredible-progress-and-we-cant-wait-to-ride-it

https://www.mtlblog.com/news/canada/qc/montreal/the-rem-is-making-incredible-progress-and-we-cant-wait-to-ride-it-video

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=REM+Train

The YVR-Canada Line since 2009

The Canada_Line opened with 2 car trains and is still running just 2 car trains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ouk0VifwM&t=817s

https://thecanadaline.com/station-history No reasonable attempt was made to make sure that the stations could eventually accommodate at least 5 car trains. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Line#Stations The inadequate 50 m stations can only accommodate a 2.5 car train, not a 5 car train.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5778392/canada-line-10-year-anniversary/

https://buzzer.translink.ca/2024/08/skytrains-canada-line-marks-15th-anniversary/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Line#Technology 

https://www.atkinsrealis.com/en/projects/the-canada-line 

https://thetyee.ca/News/2025/01/31/Canada-Line-New-Stop-Years-Making/ 

https://www.bb-gi.com/investment/canada-line/ 

 Airport to Downtown Vancouver Transit Guide (Don't Take a Taxi!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bNYrJhUgu0

https://www.railforthevalley.com/latest-news/zweisystem/should-we-convert-the-canada-line-to-light-rail-2 

 This $9 Train Saves You $40 at Vancouver Airport (YVR to Canada Place) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxUpww86dow

Fortunately, the REM trains in Montreal can accommodate 4 car trains, as does the Skyline_(Honolulu). 

The big mistake for all 3 of the Skytrain lines was not having all of the stations to be capable of accommodating 6-8 car trains. Plus, allowing for a future level station clearance of 153 m-160 m. That would have allowed Greater Vancouver to start of with short REM & Skyline type trains, with the capability to eventually have trains as long as those on the Montreal_Metro.  

Proper big city transportation infrastructure is so difficult to plan and build in backwards BC.

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=YVR-Canada+Line

REM operator apologizes for lack of communication during morning disruptions

 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/rem-operator-apologizes-for-lack-of-communication-during-service-outages-wednesday-morning-9.7312084  

https://exo.quebec/en

At least the REM started out on a grander scale than the Skytrain. With SDO, a 4 car train could easily become 6. Then, as long as there is enough level station clearance, longer platforms should be possible. 

Someday, SDO could even allow a 9 car Montreal Metro train to have 11 car trains like in NYC on the 7. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_(New_York_City_Subway_service)#Fleet 11 car trains. 

Seattle's 'Crosslake Connection' draws steady crowds on second day

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jabSGw2M4tA 

Seattle's New Light Rail On a FLOATING BRIDGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmh5uVguIlM  

Seattle's Sound Transit just expanded their Link Light Rail system by running the 2 Line across a floating bridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmh5uVguIlM&t=2s

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/seattle-light-rail-finally-opens-across-lake-washington/ 

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/light-rail/sound-transit-readies-for-crosslake-connection-launch 

Seattle has a good extensive regional train system and its getting bigger and better.

Some years after Montreal and so many years after Perth, but still better than backwards Vancouver. 

https://montrealgazette.com/news/the-rem-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-era-in-montreal-transit/ 

https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/reseau-express-metropolitain-rem-light-rail-system-canada 

Perth Narrows_Bridge 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrows_Bridge_(Perth)#Railway_bridge:_2005

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6_car_train_on_narrows.JPG 

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-train-and-traffic-on-the-mitchell-freeway-crossing-over-narrows-127193937.html 

Unfortunately, all of these nice train and wide highway bridges aren't allowed in narrowminded Vancouver. A congestive transportation approach was implemented decades ago. 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge

REM and Metro in Montreal

The REM vs. Reality: Does Montreal's new train meet expectations? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq1xpxOt7FM&t=596s 

Montreal’s Biggest REM Expansion Yet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G1oeIAfxDU&t=12s  

How Montreal’s miracle metro could change everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHqqA0onn0  

Evolution of the Montreal Metro & REM 1966-2030 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvOk2t1EpE

Airport Rail Links

The Transit Every Airport Needs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YeVZVluQWI&t=247s 

https://www.upexpress.com/en/about-up/things-are-looking-up Its only a two and three car train, when it should be between 4-6 cars, depending upon the time of day. https://www.torontopearson.com/en/transportation-and-parking/up-express

At least it's not a perpetual 2 car train joke that is the YVR-Canada Line. The eventual airport REM line should consist of 4 car trains, but the entire REM should eventually have 6 car trains.

Somehow, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane & Perth all are able to have longer trains to the airport. The 10 car SFO-BART trains are pretty cool.