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Monday, May 18, 2026

Long lost traffic lanes of Greater Vancouver

 https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/1tfsdxg/long_lost_days One of the few major streets within Vancouver to be at least 6 lanes wide. However, with curb lane parking it just becomes another 4 lane corridor in BC.

https://www.vancouverarchives.ca/wp-content/uploads/cropped-a9b22bf7-d985-4372-9650-7a51afbe5f94-2010-006.161-2-3.jpg This part of Granville used to have 6 lanes. The 1970s mall reduced it to just 2 lanes, causing an instant bus bottleneck-chokepoint. A 4 lane compromise still would have allowed for wider sidewalks. A 4 lane transit mall could have allowed for a constant passing lane when another bus has stopped. It was as if someone didn't want to have an efficient bus corridor for express buses, as well as local busses. When a local bus stops on a 2 lane street, its impossible for an express bus to pass, especially when there is a stopped bus on the other lane, also preventing any express bus to pass.

Several cities around the world still have wide streets, boulevards and avenues with 8-10 lanes. If Vancouver had allowed some 8 lane wide streets, 2 curb parking lanes would still provide 6 traffic lanes. Then, if 2 lanes were for buses, there would still be 2 lanes each way for general traffic.

The public and then the planning department (after being pressured) were firmly against having freeways within the city limits during the 1960s and 70s. However, there still should have been enough logic to allow for wider streets so that it would be easier and more efficient to have a bus lane each way. 

As of 2026, no bridge within the Vancouver city limits has 8 lanes and only two bridges have 6 lanes. One has 5 lanes and then there are four 4 lane bridges and the 3 lane Lion Bridge joke. 

All of the Vancouver bridges are so narrow that there was no provision for any future bus lanes. Plus, 2 bridges each had 2 lanes removed that could have been used for buses. Congestive transportation planning is the name of the game for backwards Vancouver. If there ever was a city that needs a series of bus bridges, it would be stubborn Vancouver. 

Even the Greater Vancouver region is lacking in having a series of bus bridges, especially since the Skytrain isn't a 24 hour system.


https://www.vancouverarchives.ca/2011/04/18/how-did-harland-bartholomews-ideas-shape-vancouver

https://archive.org/details/vancplanincgen00vanc The Bartholomew Plan published in 1928.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/vancouver-archives/albums/72157626484421302/ 

https://globalcivic.org/harland-bartholomew/

https://www.urbanstudio.sala.ubc.ca/2010/lectures/Sept21_presentations/2_TheBasics.pdf 

https://samsullivan.ca/taking-a-closer-look-at-the-legacy-of-harland-bartholomew-and-his-plan-for-vancouver-2 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIuAk1TIKHo

https://archive.org/details/planforcityofvan00vanc 1930

Thursday, June 26, 2025

SkyTrain's Commercial-Broadway Station escalators fully reopen after replacement work

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/skytrain-commercial-broadway-station-escalators-fully-reopen

This is going to be a major transit intersection, whenever the east-west line from Coquitlam to UBC is completed. Especially when the line from downtown Vancouver to Langley is completed. Unfortunatly, only the Expo_Line will have 5 car trains at some point in 2025. 

The Millennium_Line will try to only run a 2 car joke of a train for as long as possible. At least there is a potential to eventually have 5 car trains.

Unfortunatly, the joke that is the Canada_Line was deliberately designed to have stations that can only accomodate 2 2.5 car train, not a 5 car train.

Considering that Greater Vancouver mostly has narrow roads & bridges, one would think that the trains would be the longest in Canada, not the shortest. 

Tuesday, February 18, 2025

Edmonton Light Rail Transit (LRT)

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonton_LRT#History Unlike what backwards Vancouver would end up doing, Edmonton understood the importance of having long underground stations, right from the start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_Line#Stations If you are from Edmonton or Seattle, you will be immediately surprised as to how short & small the underground Vancouver train stations are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_station_(Edmonton) 1978

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Churchill_LRT_station_platform_facing_Clareview_and_NAIT%2C_11-04-2023.jpg 

"The underground station has a 129-metre-long (423 ft) centre loading platform that can accommodate two five-car LRT trains at the same time, with one train on each side of the platform. At just under 8 m wide (26 ft), the underground platform is narrow by current Edmonton LRT design guidelines." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_station_(Edmonton)#Station_layout

Yet, this is big by narrowminded Vancouver & BC standards. Despite Vancouver having its own version of cold & crappy weather, there just isn't the same concept or desire to have a network of elevated & especially, underground corridors like what Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Dallas & Houston have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_station_(Edmonton) 1978

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay/Enterprise_Square_station 1983 Being from wattered down Vancouver, it's hard to fathom a 130m long underground station in Edmonton, but Albertal doesn't have anything like a backwards BC mentality to contend with. The first 2 SkyTrain lines were designed to only have 80m stations. The 3rd line to Richmond & YVR, was only designed to have 50m stations. While this initially might have made sense as a cost saving measure, it will cost so much more to eventually try to lengthen these short stations. Thus, all the stations should have been designed to eventually be at least 153m, or just over 500 feet. 

"The station has a 130-metre-long (430 ft) centre loading platform that can accommodate two five-car LRT trains at the same time, with one train on each side of the platform." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay/Enterprise_Square_station#Station_layout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_station_(Edmonton) 1983

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Centre_station 1989

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_station_(Edmonton) 1992 It remains to be scene if Vancouver might have a UBC station by 2032. While geology & climate can vary between cities, the laws of physics in the BC part of Canada isn't supposed to be different. Yet, it takes a long time to get things done in backwater BC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Line#Stations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_light_rail_systems


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Wednesday, December 18, 2024

UBC-Vancouver-Burnaby-PM-Coquitlam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#Millennium_Line

The UBC segment could be the last part of the UBC-Broadway Corridor train line. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Line#University_of_British_Columbia_extension

However, the Port_Coquitlam_extension might be the very last part of that line.

Eventually, there should also be a Port_Coquitlam-Pitt_Meadows-Maple_Ridge line.

The+University+of+British+Columbia still has to allow cars & trucks & busses.

https://planning.ubc.ca/planning-development/policies-and-plans/u-boulevard-area-planning Unfortunatly, what used to be a 4 lane corridor has been reduced to only 2 lanes. For some reason, instead of widening the sidewalks to add bike lanes, 2 boulevard lanes were removed. 

https://planning.ubc.ca/about-us/what-guides-us/history-campus-planning Unlike Toronto, Montreal, Edmonton & Calgary, there just didn't seem to be any long term plan to have a train reaching into the main UBC campus. That is until recent decades. 

https://visit.ubc.ca/eat-drink-and-stay/restaurants/food-courts/university-boulevard-central-food-court/

https://archives.library.ubc.ca/general-history/a-brief-history-of-ubc/

https://www.universityendowmentlands.gov.bc.ca/Library/Area_D_Neighbourhood_Profile_Website.pdf


A UBC Station before the next millennium?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Washington_station 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_station_(Edmonton) 1992

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_station_(Calgary) 1987

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longueuil-Universite-de-Sherbrooke_station 1967

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berri-UQAM_station 1966

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._George_station U Toronto1963


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Friday, May 3, 2024

The Rebuilt Museum of Anthropology, but no train to UBC yet

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/museum-of-anthropology-ubc-moa-reopening-june-2024-date

https://visit.ubc.ca/see-and-do/museums-and-art-galleries/museum-of-anthropology/

https://www.vancouverattractions.com/museum-of-anthropology-at-ubc

https://planning.ubc.ca/museum-anthropology-great-hall-renewal

https://www.cntraveler.com/activities/vancouver/vancouver/museum-of-anthropology-at-ubc


The SkyTrain to UBC Subway Saga.

Some people are just as easily opposed to something like the-bloor-danforth-subway as they are with an expressway. That's especially the case in backwards Vancouver.

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-there-are-cons-not-just-pros-for-a-subway-to-ubc

Fortunately, many other cities have been able to get a train to their main university campus much faster than slow-moving Vancouver is attempting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_2_Bloor-Danforth#Frequency The TTC Subway should have been able to run 10 car trains by now. Even an 8 car train would be a little better than a 6 car train. However, a 6 car train is only 138m or 450 feet long. A 9 car Montreal Metro train is about 152.5m or 500 feet long. 

Of course the first 2 Skytrain lines only have 80m stations & the Canada embarrassment Line only has a level clearance for 50m stations. There should have been a proper oversight committee to make sure that the trains could ultimately be 10 cars long. At least have stations that could accommodate a 5 car train, not a 2.5 car joke of a train.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spadina_station

https://spacing.ca/toronto/2015/10/06/interchange-not-interchange-spadina-vs-st-george

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._George_station

https://transportation.utoronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/Subway-Map.pdf


A tour of Berri-UQAM metro station in Montreal, Canada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxkz8oc8vs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGill_station , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_station_(Montreal_Metro)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_station_(Calgary) 1987

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_station_(Edmonton) 1992

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Washington_station 2016


https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=UBC-Broadway+Corridor

Tuesday, May 2, 2017

Some Urban Trains

Fortunately, Toronto & Montreal had enough vision to plan & build 152.45m or 500 foot long subway & metro stations. Even Edmonton & Seattle have much longer underground train stations than the Vancouver-Richmond train or the YVR Canada+Line. The Vancouver YVR-Canada Line is a fine example of congestive & inept planning and should be studied all around the world as a warning. It could be called the, FINANCIAL DRAINAGE LINE, or the, CATHETER LINE. That's because the ridiculous 50m stations aren't even quite a 3rd of the length of the 152.5m Montreal Metro trains & stations. Thus, it will be difficult to lengthen these very short stations.   

It's one thing if the C+Line was started off with absurdly, short 2.5 car trains, but at least the stations were already built to gradually accommodate 5 car trains, plus still have extra clearance for even 5 more coaches. That would have been a reasonable attempt of planning for future capacity, but that's something BC just isn't that good at. The stations should have been designed to be ultimately accommodate 10 car trains, not some quarter-length joke. 

Eventually, three 20m coaches could be linked together. Then an extra 20m coach at both ends of each 3 car, 60m train. While a five car, 100m train would seem too long for 50m, inadequate BC stations, a walkthrough train makes it a possibility. That and Selective_door_operation makes a 5 car train quite possible. 

It is very sad that the backward BC mentality never properly envisioned a 10 car train to provide a high capacity link between the Tsawwassen_ferry_terminal, Bridgeport_station & the YVR-Airport_station, Downtown_Vancouver, Park_Royal_Exchange and the Horseshoe_Bay_ferry_terminal. Only a properly functioning metropolitan region can do something like that. The Greater Vancouver Region just isn't at that level yet. 



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-train

"The operation of the Central Circle is similar to the S-Train systems in Germany and other countries."




"The line is operated by 33 Siemens ES2G Lastochka trains..."
Russians aren't afraid to use good German technology.
I wish that they would allow some of that German tech in BC but BC still strives to maintain and keep things at a smaller scale. 

The Moscow Circle Line is a much more recent development than the one in London. 

"Since the beginning, platforms have been at least 155 metres (509 ft) long to accommodate eight-car trains. The only exceptions are on the Filyovskaya Line: Vystavochnaya, Mezhdunarodnaya, Studencheskaya, Kutuzovskaya, Fili, Bagrationovskaya, Filyovsky Park and Pionerskaya, which only allows six-car trains..."  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Metro#Rolling_stock 

There is suppose to be secret deeper level subway around Moscow.

Of course when severe flooding occurs, the subways are among the first things to be affected.




How in the hell is the 3rd SkyTrain line constructed to have such small stations, in-spite of increasing future demand? 


No city has spent billions of dollars just to have 2 car trains, except Vancouver & Richmond.

Apparently, the 50 m platforms are only long enough to accommodate 2.5 car trains as capacity demand increases. http://www.railforthevalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Canada-Rail-213-e14082980653651.jpg

Sure, in the early years, Montreal could run a little 3 car train, but their Metro stations were designed to accommodate a 9 car train during the very busy times & 6 car trains for intermediate demand. 

So the BC inept planning process never allowed for a future demand of at least 152.5 m or 500 foot long stations & platforms. Instead, they designed the max potential to be only 50m or 164 feet. That's pathetic & only adds to the deliberate bottleneck planning approach that backwards BC aspires to. 


As long as a line above ground & especially underground, has level sections of 500, 600 or 700 feet, then full length stations can be constructed.
When BC planers only allowed for a 50m or 164 foot level section for each Catheter Line, 




If a system starts out with little trains but has designed the ability to triple or quadruple the length of the station platforms, then its just a matter of building that future extension right from the start or at some point later on. 

Chicago & BART can still run ridiculous 4 car trains but the capacity to run 10 car trains was built in right from the start.

SYDNEY and its metro
Not only does Sydney have much longer trains & platforms, they are double level trains! Its like BC has made sure that it must never match the capacity that NSW & New_England has allowed for.

TOP 10 of the most beautiful trains in Japan

V-BC strives to perpetually be one of the most stunted or underbuilt major cities on the planet.