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Thursday, March 20, 2025

The Typical Vancouver Size Stump Building

 Given that most proper big cities around the world are permitted to build much taller & wider buildings than what is allowed in strict & stubborn Vancouver, BC, a curious thing has happened over the decades. When a tall tower is built in another city, next to it will be a Vancouver size stump of a building. However, the Vancouver stump isn't always part of the complex, The Vancouver Size Stump might be across the street or a block or so away. Yet, such a stumpy building can provide an excellent example of the larger scale that most big cities are allowed to exist upon. 

The Royal_Banck_Centre_in_Vancouver, B.C. The windows only go up to the 36th floor, but there are 3 more levels above that. It's only 475 feet in height.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Centre_(Vancouver) "The skyscraper stands at just under 145m tall and 37 storeys. Royal Centre was the tallest building in Vancouver upon completion in 1973..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Canadian_Place The windows go up to 72 stories, plus a few levels above that. The BMO tower in Toronto is about twice the height of the RBC in Vancouver. The 32 story BMO tower in Vancouver is a stump when compared to the 72 story BMO tower in TO.

The Scotia_Tower in Vancouver, stands at 138 m or 35 storeys tall and completed in 1977. 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Scotia_Tower_Vancouver The windows only go up to 34, but there are a few levels above that. The Toronto version has its windows go right to the 68th floor. Its twice the height & twice the width as the stump in backwater Vancouver.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotia_Plaza 275 m (902 ft) with 68 floors.

A Vancouver Size stump in tall Toronto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_Tower It's a 36 storey 146 m (479 ft) tower in the First Canadian Place complex of TorontoOntario, Canada. Due to the strict zoning restrictions in Vancouver, its difficult to even have an office building with 36 floors.

A Vancouver Size Stump in Perth, WA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_Tower,_Perth It's a 40-storey skyscraper in PerthWestern Australia. Completed in 1992, the 146-metre (479 ft). Stubborn Vancouver just won't permit any office building to have a 40th floor. 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Perth_skyline_from_KS1%2C_November_2017.jpg The former AMP has become a stump in Perth, yet in Vancouver, it would still be a predominant tower. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/140_St_Georges_Terrace "140 St Georges Terrace is a 30-storey skyscraper in Perth, Western Australia. Opened in 1975, the 131-metre (430 ft) tower was known as the AMP Building..."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Elizabeth_Quay_February_2016_%28cropped%29.jpg/640px-Elizabeth_Quay_February_2016_%28cropped%29.jpg The former AMP is a good example the stump size building that stubborn Vancouver wants to hold onto. 





Vancouver is a very tiny part of the BC land area. Even in the Greater Vancouver Region, Vancouver is a small component. Thus, while stubborn Vancouver wants to keep its stumpy agenda, other BC cities are more accepting of allowing significantly taller structures. https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?stateID=1&status=15


Wednesday, November 12, 2025

Cities, the BIG and the small of it

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CN_Tower 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/CN_Tower_1976.jpg/330px-CN_Tower_1976.jpg , https://www.britannica.com/topic/CN-Tower Standing at a height of 1,815 feet (553 meters)  
1815' divided by 581' is almost 3.13 times the height of a stump in Vancouver.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbour_Centre "Skyscraperpage lists the buildings height to the roof as being only 139.6 m (458 ft). This is stated to be the height from the Hastings Street entrance while the height from the back entrance on Cordova Street is 146 m (479 ft). It also lists the buildings pinnacle height to the tip of the antenna as being 177.1 m (581 ft)." STUMP!
This Vancouver stump is only 32% of the CN Towers height. 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/A_look_downtown_%28759827996%29.jpg/960px-A_look_downtown_%28759827996%29.jpg The Harbour_Centre building should have been on the scale of something like the Hopewell_Centre_(Hong_Kong)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Canadian_Place The BMO. Unlike Chicago, Toronto has no 100 story office towers.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/First_Canadian_Place_August_2017_01.jpg/500px-First_Canadian_Place_August_2017_01.jpg Its a 72 story HQ tower in Toronto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentall_Centre_(Vancouver)#Three_Bentall_Centre A 32 story BC office stump.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Bentall_3.jpg/330px-Bentall_3.jpg

Being from small Vancouver, its amazing that Canada even has one megacity. Toronto is certainly a big city on a lakeshore like Chicago is. Montreal isn't allowed to have buildings as tall as Melbourne, let alone NYC. Montreal has allowed only one office tower to be over 50 floors and a few residential towers in the 60s. 

Calgary has more 50+ story office towers than Denver and Perth. No 40 story office tower exists in BC. The office section of the Harbour_Centre doesn't even have a 30th floor and the revolving restaurant is closer to being like 35 floors up. However, with the overall building being 481 feet, it would be equivalent to 40 floors, if the windows went right up to the top. The flagpole has no windows, but the flag would be like the equivalent of being 48 floors up.

Not just Toronto & Montreal, but Edmonton and Seattle have longer underground train stations than backwards, congested Vancouver. 

The Iron+BridgeOak+Street+BridgeKnight+Street+Bridge & the Arthur+Laing+Bridge should all have a bus+and+bike bridge built next to them. The extremely inadequate Lion+Bridge should have already had a bus and train tunnel close to it. 

Monday, April 1, 2024

Stumps and Towers in various cities

Every city starts out with stumps and several cities eventually have some tall towers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Brisbane#Timeline_of_tallest_buildings

https://mapfight.xyz/compare/queensland-vs-us.fl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Brisbane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane_Square At 151 m (495 ft) it's just another Vancouver like stump, especially, AMP_Place

Queensland & especially Florida have grown substantially over the decades. A year round warm climate is certainly part of the big attraction. Something that Canada just doesn't have.

The Southeast_Financial_Center and One_Biscayne_Tower in Miami.

https://wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Miami_Skyline_2020.jpg
https://wikipedia/Miami_downtown_by_Tom_Schaefer_-_Miamitom.jpg
https://wikipedia/Southeast_Financial_Center_2016.jpg A classic tall Miami tower with some Vancouver type stumps next to it. 
https://wikipedia/One_Biscayne_Tower_from_the_southwest.jpg 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Brisbane

One_Biscayne_Tower contains 39 floors and is 492 ft (150 m) tall. Today it's just another Vancouver stump size building in downtown_Miami

Another Vancouver type stump is the Miami_Center, which is 484 ft (148 m) tall and has 34 floors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Miami#Tallest_buildings

The Miami_metropolitan_area, like Brisbane and the Gold_Coast, have been able to grow & flourish on a large scale, because they aren't under anything like the very restrictive Vancouver & BC limitations.


The BC part of Canada is very mountainous like Switzerland. Usually, SW BC is the most mild part of Canada during the winter. Thus, it's the best place to avoid most of the harsh Canadian winters. Yet, there has been quite a lacking approach to building & expanding infrastructure. Combined with very strict zoning & a haft-assed approach to urban planning, one can clearly see a much larger scale of things in Seattle, Calgary, Edmonton & Portland. 

https://mapfight.xyz/map/ch 23 Switzerland's can fit into BC. Yet, BC has yet to reach the population of 1 CH.


Friday, July 11, 2025

The Rise and Fall of an Awkward Dining Trend

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgejGeLwrj4

The Space_Needle became an instant Seattle landmark since the early 1960s. The same for the Calgary_Tower by the late 1960s.

https://www.spaceneedle.com , https://www.calgarytower.com

Both were possible, because Seattle & Calgary aren't under anything like Vancouver's imposed restrictions.

The H._R._MacMillan_Space_Centre opened in October 1968, some 4 months after the Calgary Tower & 6.5 years after the Space Needle. Of course Vancouver was behind, as usual. The first thing that you notice is that there is no tower. It's a classic stump of a building. 

https://thecdm.ca/partners/industry/the-hr-macmillan-space-centre

https://www.spacecentre.ca/celebrating-55-years

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/qhnz76/tbt_vancouver_planetarium_1968

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/SpaceNeedleTopClose.jpg The Tower
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Museum_of_Vancouver.jpg The Stump

The movie Final_Destination_Bloodlines provides a CGI depiction of what an actual tower, not a stump would look like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Destination_Bloodlines#Plot

While Final_Destination_Bloodlines was filmed in Vancouver, it was set in New York State. 

Something peculiar happened in Seattle in 2025.

https://people.com/space-needle-crack-glass-floor-absolutely-safe-11770526

https://wrif.com/2025/07/08/crack-space-needle-glass-floor/

https://cryptogmail.com/is-the-space-needles-glass-floor-cracking-heres-the-real-story/

https://komonews.com/news/local/space-needle-assures-safety-amid-viral-video-of-glass-floor-crack-glass-rotating-floor-redesign-architects-washington-tourism-visit-iconic-landmark

 Final Destination: Bloodlines Movie Clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iQhOmebDqo


https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Seattle

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Calgary

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Vancouver

Wednesday, March 12, 2025

The One in Toronto is soon to become Canada's tallest building

 https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-toronto/2025/03/one-toronto-canada-tallest-building

In order to provide a sense of scale, a couple of short bindings in the area are referenced. These small buildings would be among the tallest in stumpy Vancouver.

Two_Bloor_West is like a classic Vancouver stump building, but in Toronto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Bloor_West#History  In 1972, it was already taller than any building in BC at, 148.74 m (488.0 ft) with 34 stories. Even in 2025, its equivalent to being the 2nd tallest office tower in Vancouver & BC.


2_Bloor_East opened in 1974 at 135 m (443 ft) with 35 stories. It would still be among the 10 tallest office towers in Vancouver. However, in Toronto its just another stump of a building.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Bloor_East#History


Even The+Simpson+Tower from 1968, would still be among the tallest office towers in Vancouver. Yet, it's just another stump in Toronto.

Vancouver just isn't allowed to have buildings as tall as those in Seattle & Calgary, Toronto & Montreal or LA & SF. However, stumpy Vancouver is allowed to build what would be impressive by Victoria-Prince+George-Kamloops standards. Its all part of the backwards Vancouver and think small BC mentality. 

If you can't build a wall around BC, the next best thing is to constantly remind everyone with imposed small-scale symbolism. Unfortunatly now, BC is several decades behind with its infrastructure. 

Monday, February 24, 2025

Manulife Centre in Toronto

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manulife_Centre , https://manulifecentre.com

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Manulife+Centre

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Manulife_Centre.jpg 51 floors in 1974, but this should have been the first 65 story residential tower in Toronto.

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/toronto/44-charles-street-west/2979 166 m / 545 ft

Fortunately, 44 Charles wasn't just 44 stories. Indeed, it was the first 51 story mixed-use residential & office complex in Canada, but it should have been taller. Chicago has had the 100 story John Hancock Center since 1969. If Toronto couldn't have its own 100 story building in the mid 1970s, similar in scale to the John_Hancock_Center, there should have been two buildings with more than 50 floos. 

https://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/canada/properties/for-lease/office/on/toronto/55-bloor-street-west/s119707755-l This should have been the first 55 story office tower outside of downtown Toronto.

https://www.loopnet.ca/Listing/55-Bloor-St-W-Toronto-ON/17793768

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Manulife_Centre_2022.jpg Its like there was an obligatory Vancouver stump that had to be part of the development. It's a stump, because it's windows don't even rise over 20 floors. This stump building should have been 55 stories at 55 Bloor.

https://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/manulife-centre-podium-and-streetscape-renewal.19539

This is a nice, wide Toronto building, but it got Vancouverized or miniaturized, right from the start.

https://www.cbre.ca/properties/retail/details/CA-Plus-268572/manulife-centre-55-bloor-street-w-toronto-ontario-m4w-1a5 It would have been quite impressive if it opened as a 55 story tower.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/industry-news/property-report/article-torontos-manulife-centre-adds-a-more-friendly-facade/

https://sgconstructors.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/55-Bloor-Manulife-Redevelopment-Profile.pdf

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2018/09/glazing-enclosing-manulife-centre-addition-bay-and-bloor.33926

https://www.bgis.com/assets/documents/BMO-Case-Study-RetroCommissioning-BMTT-55-Bloor.2023.09.11_r6FINAL.pdf


Australia was able to go above 99 floors before Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_108 Actually has 100 floors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STH_BNK_by_Beulah 102 floors.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Canada#Under_construction

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacle_One_Yonge 105?

Saturday, July 27, 2024

The Vancouver (stump) House

https://upload.wikimedia.org/Vancouver_House

Vancouver_House is a small building compared to what's allowed in real cities.  

155.6 m / 511 ft
Floors52 https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/vancouver-house/13987 Its almost 230 feet shoter than a simialar building in Calgary. 

Since Telus_Sky is in Calgary, it's not under any of the Vancouver type restrictions.

 https://cityhallwatch.wordpress.com/2020/03/06/lights-out-at-vancouver-house/

So many things are mixed up or upside-down in backward Vancouver. 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/Calgary_Skyline_May_2018 
https://upload.wikimedia.org In 1984 the taller tower was the tallest in Western Canada. The stump next to it would be equivalent to one of the tallest towers in backwater BC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suncor_Energy_Centre

https://upload.wikimedia.org/Telus_Sky_September_2017 
https://upload.wikimedia.org Just another stump in Calgary, but it would be a significant size tower in watered down Vancouver.
125 m / 410 ft

Tuesday, January 7, 2025

The (stumpy) Post in Vancouver

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/sony-pictures-imageworks-global-headquarters-vancouver-the-post

https://storeys.com/quadreal-graeme-scott-the-post-vancouver-heritage-revitalization-amazon/

What could have been a nice, impressive double 55 story office complex is just another Vancouver stumpy building+complex. In that part of the very restrictive city, the building complex wasn't even allowed to have a 25th floor.

It's all part of the Vancouver stump agenda.

Had Bankers_Hall 1 & 2 in Calgary only been 26 stories, they would just be another stump complex. However, at 52 stories, they remain impressive.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Bankers-Hall-Szmurlo.jpg

Although Bankers_Hall isn't quite as tall as City_National_Plaza in L.A., both are 52 story complexes. 

Thursday, March 13, 2025

The Old City Hall and The Simpson Tower in Toronto

The Old_City_Hall opened in 1899 at a height of 103.64 m (340.0 ft).  Even in the 21st century, many parts of Downtown Vancouver aren't allowed to have buildings taller than Toronto's Old City Hall.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Torontos_Old_City_Hall_2009.jpg If you are visiting from Toronto or Montreal, Sydney or Melbourne, you might be shocked as to seeing how small and backwards Vancouver is. Various imposed restrictions have cause a multigenerational watering down of what should actually be a properly functioning big city and greater metropolitan region.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Front_of_Old_City_Hall_in_July_2024.jpg Being from backwater Vancouver, its always amazing to see what cities like Toronto, Montreal, Sydney,  Melbourne, Seattle, SF & LA are permitted to do. They and most other cities just don't have anything like the Vancouver Mind Virus (VMV) to thwart them.

The Post is a stumpy building+complex in Vancouver. Despite the high land costs, strict Vancouver wouldn't permit it to be taller than Toronto's Old City Hall. The Stump, rather The Post, should have been taller than the LA City Hall, the Philadelphia_City_Hall and the Manhattan_Municipal_Building. It should have really been closer in size to that of the Seattle_Municipal_Tower or even the Tokyo_Metropolitan_Government_Building

Library Square in Vancouver just like The Post, wasn't allowed to have 25 floors, when they both should have been well over 50 stories.

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/library-square/25126 84.1 m / 276 ft

https://www.da-architects.ca/projects/library-square Strict Vancouver just doesnt allow buildings in that part of the downtown to be taller than The Old City Hall in Toronto.

https://viewpointvancouver.ca/2018/10/05/library-square-best-new-public-space-in-vancouver 

https://montecristomagazine.com/design/secret-garden-top-vancouvers-library-stayed-hidden-20-years#gsc.tab=0 

Unfortunatly, Library Square and The Post are so scaled back or watered down, they would hardly be impressive in most proper big cities around the world. Library Square and The Post should have both been in the 50-60 story range, but don't even have a 25th floor. This was a lost opportunity for Downtown Vancouver to have a proper size big city and government complex.

The Simpson_Tower opened in 1968. It has 33 floors and is 144 m (472 ft) high. It would be equivalent to being the tallest building in BC until 1973. Even in 2025, most office towers in Vancouver aren't allowed to be taller than this 1968 Toronto stump.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Simpson_Tower_2022.jpg 

The Simpson-Tower is only 18 feet taller than the LA+City+Hall.

The Simpson Tower has become just like another Vancouver size stump in Toronto.

It's really astounding that not only did The+Post+in+Vancouver have to be shorter than the Toronto Simpson Tower and the LA+City+Hall, it had to be shorter than the Old City Hall in Toronto. Now that's very small, but it fits in with the small-minded Vancouver mentality. Indeed, Vancouverization is about a backward, rainy city that has a multigenerational restrictive agenda to water everything down. Even the mountains north of Vancouver are shorter than the mountains north of L.A. WTH?   


https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=The+Post+building+complex

Friday, January 3, 2025

Telus Towers in Canada

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ceo-vancouver-telus-highest-paid-canada

https://www.vanmag.com/city/business/telus-garden-is-green This is one of the ariticles that still say that the complex in Vancouver is over 50 floors. The tower wasn't allowed to rise above the 40s and the office stump doesn't even 25 floors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telus_Garden The residential tower isn't 55 or even 50 stories. It was tough enough just to get the city to even allow it to have 46 floors.

https://www.rew.ca/buildings/8822/telus-garden-vancouver-bc It should have been 65-70 stories, but 46 floors is all you get there.

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/telus-garden-residential-tower/14081 46F 135.6 m / 445 ft

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Telus_Garden_201807.jpg Its no taller in overal height than the Telus_Tower_in_Montreal.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Telus_Garden_view_201807.jpg The stump part of the site isn't even 25 floors, when it should have been at least 50-55.

https://telusgarden.com/the-building Their website states that the office part of the development is only 24 stories. https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/complex/598

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telus_Harbour The Toronto version ended up being like another half-size building from Vancouver. 

https://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/telus-house-25-york-street.2272 This would have been a nice tower if it was 60 floors.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATB_Place Edmonton


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telus_Sky , a 60-storey, 222.3 m (729 ft) tower in Calgary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telus_Sky#/media/File:Telus_Sky_September_2017.jpg

Thursday, September 28, 2023

Is the Stack, a tower or a stump?

 https://storeys.com/james-cheng-the-stack-vancouver

In Seattle, Toronto, Calgary & even Montreal, this would almost be just another average stump building. Those cities & so many more around the planet, have long since allowed office towers to have more than 40 floors. However, in the BC part of Canada, there is no office tower that has reached 40 stories, just a few residential towers are taller. Yet, sometimes the land value in Vancouver is more than in Toronto.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-view-cone-restrictions-policies

Of course Seattle, Toronto, Calgary & Montreal have been allowed to be proper big cities, simple because they aren't under any Vancouver type restrictions or limitations.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouvers-shrinking-skyline

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/larwill-park-office-towers-vancouver-concept

Nevermind Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, LA, SF, Seattle, Toronto, Calgary & Montreal, Vancouver isn't even allowed to build as tall as the tallest buildings in Vaughan, Mississauga, Edmonton & Belleview, WA. 

https://storeys.com/cities/mississauga

https://storeys.com/cities/toronto/

https://storeys.com/cities/calgary/


https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Brisbane-Sydney-Melbourne-Toronto-SF

Thursday, March 20, 2025

BMO Tower in Chicago and Toronto...

A Toronto bank tower exists in Chicago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMO_Tower_(Chicago) 51-story, 727 feet (222 m)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Union_Station

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chicago+Union+Station/@41.877568,-87.6397406,525m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x880e2c3cd0f4cbed:0xafe0a6ad09c0c000!2sChicago,+IL,+USA!3b1!8m2!3d41.8781136!4d-87.6297982!16zL20vMDFfZDQ!3m5!1s0x880e2c8dbbb32f5d:0x5f985dc0044b1109!8m2!3d41.8786897!4d-87.640311!16s%2Fg%2F1tj7wzcm!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Canadian_Place (BMO Tower Toronto) 298 m (978 ft) 72 stories 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/First_Canadian_Place_August_2017_01.jpg/320px-First_Canadian_Place_August_2017_01.jpg 72 stories in Toronto, while its Vancouver counterpart, or stump is only 32 floors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Canadian_Place#History_and_architecture


"Exchange_Tower is a 36 storey 146 m (479 ft) tower in the First Canadian Place complex."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/130_King_Street_West_2022.jpeg Whether its in Toronto, Chicago or Calgary, there is usually a Vancouver size stump that's part of the official complex, or close by.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentall_Centre_(Vancouver)#Three_Bentall_Centre "Completed in 1974, it stands at 122 m or 32 storeys tall. Bank of Montreal is the main tenant of this building."
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Bentall_Centre_2018.jpg/960px-Bentall_Centre_2018.jpg

Tuesday, December 31, 2024

Los Angeles City Hall (454 ft or 138 m)

The LA_City_Hall should have been at least 500' tall, but it's only 454'. That still makes the Los_Angeles_City_Hall one of the taller ones around the planet, but it's become a stump of a building in downtown L.A.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_City_Hall#History "...was completed in 1928. Dedication ceremonies were held on April 26, 1928. It has 32 floors and, at 454 feet (138 m) high."  

"A City Council ordinance passed in 1905 did not permit any new construction to be taller than 13 stories or 150 ft (46 m) in order to keep the city's architecture harmonious. City Hall's 454 ft (138 m) height was deemed exempt as a public building and assured that no building would surpass one third its height for over three decades until the ordinance was repealed by voter referendum in 1957.[9] Therefore, from its completion in 1928 until finally surpassed by the topping off of Union Bank Plaza in 1966, City Hall was the tallest building in Los Angeles..."

https://laist.com/news/entertainment/city-hall-tall Not 451 feet, but 454 feet, because there was no F 451 novel yet. The 454' LA City Hall was like an unofficial F-you to the taller buildings in NYC and Chicago. Perhaps even Metropolis_(1927_film).    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(1927_film)#Influences 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick PKD was born in 1928, the same year that the LA City Hall opened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451 "The writing and theme within Fahrenheit 451 was explored by Bradbury in some of his previous short stories. Between 1947 and 1948, Bradbury wrote "Bright Phoenix", a short story about a librarian who confronts a "Chief Censor", who burns books. An encounter Bradbury had in 1949 with the police inspired him to write the short story "The Pedestrian" in 1951. In "The Pedestrian", a man going for a nighttime walk in his neighborhood is harassed and detained by the police. In the society of "The Pedestrian", citizens are expected to watch television as a leisurely activity, a detail that would be included in Fahrenheit 451. Elements of both "Bright Phoenix" and "The Pedestrian" would be combined into The Fireman, a novella published in Galaxy Science Fiction in 1951. Bradbury was urged by Stanley Kauffmann, an editor at Ballantine Books, to make The Fireman into a full novel. Bradbury finished the manuscript for Fahrenheit 451 in 1953, and the novel was published later that year." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_451#Title

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/LA_San_Gabriel_Mountains.jpg If you look hard enough you can see how small the LA City Hall actually is now in the 21st century.

https://laist.com/news/entertainment/city-hall-tall From 2016.

The agenda to not permit any building in LA to be taller than City Hall was the case for several decades. Even Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane & Perth weren't allowed to have buildings taller than the LA_City_Hall for a long time. Of course it took until the early 1970s for Vancouver to allow a building to be a little taller than the LA_City_Hall

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Los_Angeles_with_Mount_Baldy.jpg

City Hall is really like a stump on the modern LA skyline. It can easily be obscured by the taller towers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Los_Angeles#Tallest_buildings 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Bank_Plaza Completed in 1968.

Roof157.28 m (516.0 ft)
Technical details
Floor count40
Floor area68,525 m2 (737,600 sq ft)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Bank_Plaza#History Not only the first building permitted in LA to be over 500 feet, but having at least a 40th floor.  

Just as LA got its first 40 story building in 1968, PKD had a book out in the same year. Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep?#Plot

https://medium.com/@ejasp2/metropolis-v-s-blade-runner-1982-871baea0eea0

https://www.bartleby.com/essay/Comparison-between-Metropolis-and-Blade-Runner-P3JDKCLEC8BRS#  

While Philip_K._Dick set E. Sheep in SF, Blade_Runner was set in LA.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner#Production


https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=LA+City+Hall

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=stumps

Thursday, April 25, 2024

Vancouver Centre 2 office tower, or is it just another stump?

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-centre-ii-office-tower-tenants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotia_Tower Of course it had to be shorter than the 2 tallest pyramids in Egypt. They used to be even taller when originally built.

The Scotia_Plaza in Toronto is double the height & twice the width than the stump in Vancouver.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/pyramid/geometry/height.html VC Towers 1 & 2 weren't allowed to be taller than the original height of the Great_Pyramid_of_Giza in Cairo, Egypt either.

Vancouver Centre Tower 2 is definitely shorter than the Pyramid_of_Khafre.

A lot of cities have tall office towers, but Vancouver won't permit any to have 40 floors, nevermind 50, 60 or 70. Today, office towers might have to be designed to potentially be repurposed, as the need for office space declines.

In many cases, a 60 story residential tower might be the height equivalent of a 45-50 story office tower. That's because office floors are usually higher than residential floors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Vancouver

It's interesting that Vancouver & BC chose to use some Egyptian pyramid symbolism. 

https://globalnews.ca/news/4627676/bc-liberals-new-brand

https://wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Pyramids_of_the_Giza_Necropolis.jpg. 
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images , https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=bcliberaIs

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/here-s-what-the-bc-liberal-party-may-change-its-name-to-1.6086133

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-election-2017-bc-liberals-different-federal-liberals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Park_Board 3 mountains that look a lot like pyramids.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Vancouver_Park_Board_logo.png 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Giza-pyramids-uwm.png 
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Giza-pyramids.JPG


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Conservative_Party_of_BC_Logo.png In this case, it's just a big and a small one.

Egypt eventually had to allow structures to be taller than their classic pyramids. However, it wasn't until the 1970s when the BC part of Canada would ever so slightly, allow some buildings to be taller than the great pyramid. Fortunately, most real major cities around the world don't have to adhere to anything like the strict Vancouver type height restrictions & other limitations. Even the mountains just north of Vancouver are shorter than the mountains that are north of LA.

The Cairo_Tower was the first Egyptian building allowed to exceed the height of the Great_Pyramid_of_Giza.  
Architectural187 m (613.5 ft)
Antenna spire187 m (613.5 ft)
Roof160 m (524.9 ft)
Top floor143 m (469.2 ft)
Observatory143 m (469.2 ft)