Would people pay a bridge toll if it helps solve traffic woes on the North Shore?

 https://www.nsnews.com/opinion/letter-i-would-gladly-pay-a-bridge-toll-if-it-helps-solve-our-traffic-woes-11665442 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Shore_(Greater_Vancouver) 

As of 2026, no bus, car, truck and commuter train tunnel was ever built near the extremely inadequate 3 lane Lions+Gate+Bridge. For if there had then, the LGB could have become a nice bike and foot crossing.

Of course no bus, truck and commuter train bridge was built next to the Iron+Bridge. The inadequate Iron Bridge is so narrow that there isn't any room for emergency lanes and especially no proper express or rapid bus lanes.

By now, there should be a SeaBus crossing of at least every 5 minutes in both directions. 

Its extremely difficult to bring the Greater Vancouver Region up to a proper urban transportation standard. Partly because this is part of backwards BC and partly because there is just such a lack of a normal big city vision. 

For some reason, congestive transportation planning just isn't that popular outside of backwards Vancouver, BC.

The Best fix for North Shore traffic is to upgrade or replace both bridges

 https://www.nsnews.com/opinion/letter-best-fix-for-north-shore-traffic-is-to-upgrade-or-replace-both-bridges-11233455 

When there is a refusal to build bigger and better bridges, there still should be a regional network of bus and train bridges. However, the gridloc planning agenda keeps winning out.

Unfortunatly, after decades of inept transportation planning and then so much money wasted down a $HIT-PIPE, the North Shore keeps getting hit hard from the $HIT-BOX planning mentality. 

The Tilikum+Crossing in Portland is a fantastic example of modern infrastructure planning and development. It allows for the MAX-LRT, the streetcar, the bus, bikes and pedestrians to conveniently get across. The nice thing about the TC is that no lanes had to be removed or repurposed on the other Portland bridges. Perhaps that's why something like the TC isn't allowed in BC, because it could actually help to improve transportation efficiency. 

The Washington+Avenue+Bridge is another example of what's not allowed in Greater Vancouver or anywhere else in the BC part of Canada. After all this time, Greater Vancouver is still so lacking in a regional network of transit+bridges. 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=transit+bridges  

The Canada (embarrassment) Line

Using the limited funds and low capacity argument is excrement! It's only because of inept urban planning that the Canada+Line is such a transportation embarrassment & sad joke since 2009. Several other cities around the world are able to think big, they plan & build in a long-term way. Thus, if there are only enough funds to build a 2.5 car train, the stations could have been designed to eventually accomodate 5 car trains as demand increases. Plus, all the stations should have been designed with enough clearance to gradually be long enough for 10 car trains.

https://www.translink.ca/-/media/translink/documents/plans-and-projects/regional-transportation-strategy/transport-2050/backgrounders/transport_2050_backgrounder_action_2_rapid_transit_network.pdf

An ultimate capacity of 10 car trains connecting both ferry terminals with the airport & downtown Vancouver, would really have been properly planning for the future. 10 car trains running every 2 minutes during the busiest times of the day would efficiently allow a lot people to get around. Unfortunatly, it will be challenging enough just to eventually have 5 car trains.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-line-skytrain

The absurdity to design the stations to only handle 2.5 car trains is a sad joke. The ultimate capacity of two 20m cars with a 10m filler car is so inadequate & pathetic, but this is the BC part of Canada. This backwards & backwater thinking must be challenged. 

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/skytrain-future-station-locations

With some modifications, three 20m cars could form a 60m train, despite the absurd platforms only having a clearance for 50m. A 60m walkthrough train makes this possible, its just that the doors at either end wouldn't reach the short station platform. Selective_door_operation could enable the Canada Line to go from a 2 car & 2.5 car joke, to a 3 car & ultimately, a 5 car train. That's still a far cry from cities with 10 car trains running every 2 minutes. However, a 5 car train running every minute could make all the difference for Greater Vancouver.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/what-you-need-to-know-north-shore-wastewater-treatment-plant-1.7235368# Aparently, there is enough money to overpay for a $HIT-PIPE and a $HIT-BOX, but not enough funds to build a proper high capacity train over a couple of decades.  

The Canada_Line opened in 2009 with its short 2 car trains & in 2025, there still aren't any 2.5 car trains. By now, it really should have been running 5 car trains, connecting the 2 ferry terminals & the airport. Fortunately, most real cities are able to do proper long range planning for their infrastructure, unlike backwards Vancouver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)_rolling_stock#Canada_Line_fleet 

Any serious airport+train should be envisioned as more than just a 2 car joke. While a 3 car train might be a little better, a 4 car train should be the minimum. Then, having the stations already long enough to accomodate 6 car trains, with enough clearance for eventually 8-10 car trains. A 2 car joke of a train is almost as bad as the 3 lane Lion Bridge. 

There should have been enough informed people to not only make sure that the C+Line was properly designed, but that the whole Greater Vancouver Region had proper planning measures for future transportation infrastructure capacity. Unfortunatly, backwards BC has been under a multi-generational backwater agenda. 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Canada+Line 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=airport+line

Former B.C. deputy finance minister to lead audit of North Shore sewage plant

 https://www.burnabynow.com/highlights/former-bc-deputy-finance-minister-to-lead-audit-of-north-shore-sewage-plant-10304011

While a Burnaby to North Vancouver express bus and rail link is a good idea, there should also be a link between Vancouver and West Vancouver. Unfortunatly, so much extra money will be going toward a shit-pipe and a shit-box, instead of a rail tunnel & a new bridge. So many people are still in denial, but urban planning & funding in BC is really the $HIT$ for Greater Vancouver.

https://www.burnabynow.com/economy-law-politics/fractures-deepen-as-metro-vancouver-faces-governance-review-10305334

So much money was wasted on a $HIT-BOX and a $HIT-PIPE that could have gone towards a train tunnel near the LGB.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver/vancouver-island/article/metro-vancouver-should-not-be-a-gravy-train-bc-asked-to-partner-in-regional-governance-review

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=$HIT-PIPE

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=SHIT-BOX

Highway 1 Keith Road and Mt Seymour Parkway

 https://www.mcelhanney.com/project/highway-1-keith-road-mt-seymour-parkway/

The North_Shore_(Greater_Vancouver) is designed to be heavily congested.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ironworkers-on-ramp-traffic-north-shore 

The North+Shore should have at least 2 rapid transit train crossings.

https://theprovince.com/opinion/linda-buchanan-bridging-communities-across-highway-1-would-revitalize-north-vancouver 

There should have been a train, bus & HOV tunnel by the First Narrows generations ago.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/integrated-north-shore-transportation-planning-project-lonsdale-vancouver-rapid-transit

There should have been a train, bus & HOV bridge beside the Iron Bridge decades ago.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/provincial-federal-municipal-governments-launch-north-bowinn-ma

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214205&page=13

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=North+Shore+of+Greater+Vancouver

The Boundary Road corridor between North Vancouver, Burnaby and Richmond

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/boundary-road-vancouver-burnaby-shared-maintenance-history

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/driving-in-vancouver-the-worst

Boundary+Road should have had a bridge over Burrard_Inlet and over the North_Arm_of_the_Fraser_River by now. A North and South Boundary Road+Bridge could provide a good truck, bus & bike connection between the North Shore, Vancouver & Burnaby. Then between Burnaby & Richmond with a Number 8 Road Bridge. Then a Nelson Road Bridge to Delta and the Deltaport. However, such regional port city infrastructure still seems beyond what the backwater BC mentality can fathom.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/boundary-road-bridge-vancouver-burnaby-richmond An April Fools articale hightligted the absudity of Greater Vancouver ignoring or neglecting The Boundary Road corridor.

Boundary+Road has the potential to be a regional north-south axis for trucks, buses, cars & bikes, that would really enable more people & goods to efficiently get around.

A North Shore Skytrain on a new Ironworkers Memorial Bridge?

 https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-united-north-shore-skytrain-ironworkers-memorial-bridge

Either a rapid-bus crossing first, or a train crossing with 2 buss lanes for whenever the train is shut down. The NW Skybridge wasn't designed to have 2 bus & 2 bike lanes & 2 footpaths. Thus, the SkyBridge to Surrey remains as a fine inept example of backward BC planning. 

The North-Arm-Bridge to Richmond was also not designed to have 2 bus lanes, 2 bike lanes & 2 footpaths. Just one combined bike & footpath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Arm_Bridge

Unfortunately, Greater Vancouver doesn't want to provide 24hr trains. Yet, there seems to be a reluctance to have a series of regional bus-bridges, because most of the existing bridges are too narrow to have 2 extra bus lanes.

https://canada.constructconnect.com/joc/news/infrastructure/2023/07/province-planning-study-on-future-of-ironworkers-bridge

https://vancouvertraces.weebly.com/the-first-and-second-narrows-crossings.html

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=North+Shore+of+Greater+Vancouver

Metro Vancouver expected to grow by 50,000 people a year

 https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/metro-vancouver-expected-grow-50,000-people-year

Of course all the real big cities around the world are able to properly plan & build up an appropriate level of infrastructure, were as Greater Vancouver keeps taking a scaled back approach. Especially within the small city limits of  Vancouver.

Little backwater NW should have been properly planned as a gateway between Surrey, Burnaby & Coquitlam, decades ago. However, there has been a multi-generational resistance mentality & its quite apparent in the stunted infrastructure.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9489375/pattullo-replacement-six-lanes-debate Open the new P Bridge with only 4 lanes & no emergency lanes, because 2 extra bus & HOV lanes would be what a proper big city would do. Make sure that there is no provision for a LRT deck, because NW & Surrey only needs one rail transit line. A provision for a 2nd deck would ensure future truck capacity, but that would mean to properly plan for growth. This multi-generational congestive planning approach in BC is so absurd. 

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pattullo-bridge-replacement-crossing-capacity-small

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skybridge_(TransLink) When the SkyBridge between NW & Surrey opened in 1990, there was no provision to have 2 bus & HOV lanes. Of course there were no bike lanes & footpaths on the bridge. Apparently, it was better to just squeeze all bike & foot traffic onto the very narrow Pattullo_Bridge, which only has 1 sidewalk no wider than a bathtub.

https://evelazarus.com/aborted-plans-a-third-crossing-for-the-north-shore While V-BC celebrated the cancelation of a series of freeway plans through the small city between the 1950s & into the early 70s, there was never a proper follow-up to a North Shore rapid-transit crossing.

https://www.nsnews.com/opinion/letters-lets-get-going-on-a-third-crossing-for-north-shore-6436538 It is pathetic & embarasing that a bike, bus & train bridge wasn't built across the North+Shore inlet at least by the mid 1980s.

https://www.nsnews.com/opinion/almost-two-thirds-of-north-shore-readers-say-a-new-bridge-is-needed-6423723 It is absurd that there wont be a train, bus & bike bridge crossing the inlet by 2025 or even 2030. https://council.vancouver.ca/010313/tt2.htm

The only hope seems to be an eventual replacement or some kind of upgrade to the Iron Bridge. Transportation_in_Vancouver has always been on a smaller scale than what it should be. 

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/a-look-at-six-possible-routes-for-rapid-transit-across-burrard-inlet

https://globalnews.ca/news/3765300/little-hope-of-third-crossing-to-north-shore-as-traffic-woes-worsen/

https://viewpointvancouver.ca/2016/08/26/first-rule-for-a-third-crossing

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/this-week-in-history-1967-wacky-bennett-and-tom-terrific-team-up-to-push-for-a-third-crossing Of course a new bus and train bridge should have still been built. Having a freeway system within the city limits of Vancouver would have been too damaging. People got so freaked out about it and didn't properly realize that there still should have been 2 bus lanes and 2 HOV lanes crossing the inlet. The plan should have also included 2 truck lanes and at least 2 train tracks in a bridge or tunnel, no freeway required, just a link to the surface streets of Vancouver & North Vancouver.

BC doesn't even have the population of one Switzerland. Yet, many local people already say that BC is too populated. WTH? Most of the worlds population is non-white. Keeping the infrastructure short, small & narrow is a strange way to symbolically refuse to build for more people on a mostly non-white world. 

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=North+Shore+of+Greater+Vancouver

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=V-BC

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Pattullo+Bridge

A Horseshoe Bay SkyTrain line to North Vancouver and Downtown Vancouver?

"A SkyTrain from downtown to Horseshoe Bay would provide a solution to the North Shore’s traffic crisis,..." https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/highlights/letter-horseshoe-bay-skytrain-north-vancouver-7753960

When the decision and implementation to put a major ferry terminal at Horseshoe_Bay in West_Vancouver was done, there didn't seem to be any sense of proper long-range urban transportation planning. It didn't matter if it was 2010 or 2020, there still seemed to be no need to build or at least an official plan for a rail rapid transit connection between the Horseshoe+Bay+ferry+terminal, Park Royal, downtown Vancouver and YVR.

https://www.vancouversnorthshore.com/neighbourhood/horseshoe-bay

https://www.bcferries.com/routes-fares/schedules/daily/HSB-NAN

The lack of an official plan to eventually link the Horseshoe_Bay_ferry_terminal and the Tsawwassen_ferry_terminal to YVR might as well be just another science fiction story.

The Greater Victoria, Swartz_Bay_ferry_terminal should also have a long-term plan for an intercity rail link to Downtown_Victoria and connect with the Duke_Point_ferry_terminal and the Departure_Bay_ferry_terminal in Nanaimo.

For some reason, Vancouver, Victoria and BC in general, doesn't seem to want to be a leader in transportation planning & development.

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=SkyTrain-Canada+Line

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Horseshoe+Bay

West Georgia Street in Vancouver

 https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/west-georgia-street-rush-hour-vancouver-bc--72550243987409307

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/skytrain-north-vancouver-west-vancouver-north-shore

The Lions+Gate+Bridge is a classic 3 lane bottleneck, or the quintessential urban chokepoint. The LGB could become an excellent foot, bus & bike bridge, if only a tunnel could be built close to it.

Five-blocks east of the park, Georgia Street is continually seven lanes wide.

https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/west-georgia-complete-street.aspx

While that segment of W. Georgia_Street is 7 lanes wide, an 8 lane tunnel could cross the 1st Narrows. A 7 lane tunnel might be a little cheaper with a middle centre lane section & barrier, two 4 lane compartments would be much better. During the morning, all 4 lanes could be heading into Vancouver with 1 as a HOV lane. Then, during the afternoon, all 4 northbound lanes would be open with the 4th being a HOV lane.

The 4 lane northbound tunnel could emerge just north of the LGB. Then the surface route could connect to Marine Drive and then turn onto Capilano Road. The Cap interchange is already there. Simply moving the yellow line over one lane would allow 3 lanes of northbound traffic on Capilano Road. 

A reconfigured TCH & Taylor Way interchange could allow for 3 southbound lanes right down to the mall, simply by moving the yellow line over 1 lane. Then, a 3 lane Taylor Way southbound tunnel could start just south of the Marine Drive intersection. A southbound HOV lane would have to be routed into it.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/this-week-in-history-the-great-georgia-harris-viaduct-opens-in-1915 Aparently, no one bothered to make sure that the 4 lane structure could properly support streetcars. Thus, the inept city couldn't use it as a major east-west streetcar route.

https://spacing.ca/vancouver/2011/06/16/the-viaducts-past-present-and-future-part-1 Even in the 1970s there was no concept to have an express bus corridor betwen Vancouver, Burnaby & Coquitlam. 

https://viewpointvancouver.ca/2015/01/13/john-mackie-the-georgia-viaduct-and-the-freeway-fight-1972

Then when the first 2 SkyTrain lines were built, the stations were barely half the length of the 152.5 meter Montreal Metro stations. Evidently, this was to save money, but the stations should have still been built to proper big city standards. Then to further reinforce the symbolism of congestive planning agenda, the 3rd line only has enough clearance for 50 meter stations. 

Sydney started to have taller buildings than Vancouver by the early 1960s. https://ca.pinterest.com/pin/west-georgia-street-1960--497647827546801125 It took until the end of the 1960s for Melbourne to start having taller buildings than Vancouver. Then as Melbourne soared into the 1970s, Vancouver started to create a series of overlapping restrictions to thwart the city.

https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/british-columbia-vancouver-skyline-1970s-with-possible-building-site-of-west-coast-transmission-building--716424253196467928 Despite being a Pacific city, Vancouver & Canada don't seem to be interested in having a proper metropolis on the scale of Sydney, Melbourne & Brisbane. The tallest buildings in Vancouver must be shorter than even the tallest in Perth, Seattle & Calgary. Most of the roads & bridges are to be half the width & the trains are also to be a half-length joke. Thus, Greater Vancouver has been in a perpetual state of congestion.

https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Georgia+Street