The Iron Bridge should have had a bus, truck and LRT bridge built next to it decades ago.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge
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The Iron Bridge should have had a bus, truck and LRT bridge built next to it decades ago.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Narrows_Crossing#Collapse
After the collapse, there was a chance that the Iron_Bridge (IwB) could have been totally redesigned, but this is BC. Its very difficult in BC to design transportation infrastructure with significant future capacity. The Iron Bridge should have been built along the lines of the 12 lane Ship_Canal_Bridge (SCB) in Seattle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_Canal_Bridge
Unlike Seattle and Washington State, so much in BC is built to a provincial backwater standard. Thus, nothing on the scale of the SCB has ever been allowed in BC. https://pauldorpat.com/2014/05/17/seattle-now-then-the-ship-canal-bridge Sunce an LRT line wasn't possible for the SCB, it runs sort of parallel in a tunnel to the UW. Of course LRT to UBC is still an incomplete BC pipe dream.
The IwB should have had at least 8 lanes on an upper deck and 4 lanes on a lower deck for extra bus and truck lanes. There should have also been a provision for 2 LRT tracks on a lower deck, but that would be properly planning for the future.
Unfortunately, the Vancouver Mind Virus (VMV) ruined the Burrard-Bridge. The Burrard_Street Bridge (BSB) opened with 6 lanes and a lower level provision for a double track streetcar crossing.
Foolishly, because the city didn't want to build a parallel bike bridge, 2 lanes were removed from the BSB. This has made it very unlikely that the BSB will be able to have 2 bus lanes. No lower level streetcar crossing was ever built. Yet, a streetcar line on both side of False Creek could have been a nice thing to have up and running. Ironically, Vancouver was one of the first cities to get rid of its streetcars and will likely be one of the last to bring them back. The VMV is such a horrible thing, yet it officially doesn't exist.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ironworkers-memorial-metro-vancouver-bridge-traffic-volumes
Had the-bridge been designed with 2 wide emergency lanes and 2 wide shoulders, things could have been gradually modified and improved. The Iron Bridge could have become an 8 lane crossing for general traffic, plus having 2 express bus or rapid bus lanes.
Unlike the Queensboro_Bridge in NYC, or the Benjamin_Franklin_Bridge and the Sydney_Harbour_Bridge, this bridge wasn't designed with future rail rapid transit in mind.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ironworkers-memorial-bridge-lane-closures-vancouver
Unfortunatly, when this bridge was designed, there was no serious consideration to have 2 wide emergency lanes and 2 wide shoulders. Then, the Iron Bridge could have gradually been adapted to accommodate 2 bus lanes and 2 HOV lanes. At the very least, a bus, HOV and commuter train bridge should have been built next to the inadequate Iron Bridge back in the 20th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Narrows_Crossing Opened August 25, 1960
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Street_Bridge Opened February 4, 1954 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/View_of_downtown_Vancouver_from_the_Granville_Street_Bridge.JPG/960px-View_of_downtown_Vancouver_from_the_Granville_Street_Bridge.JPG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Street_Bridge Opened June 29, 1957 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Oak_Street_Bridge.jpg/960px-Oak_Street_Bridge.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Street_Bridge Opened January 15, 1974 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Knight_Street_Bridge.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Laing_Bridge Opened 27 August 1975
https://evelazarus.com/third-crossing-here-we-go-again Somehow, Vancouver just never got around to building a bus and train tunnel or bridge in between the Lion Bridge and the Iron Bridge. Since Skytrain doesn't run 24 hours, there needs to be 24 hour bus lanes.
https://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/dfhd/page_nhs_eng.aspx?id=11273 Some day, the Lion Bridge could become a nice bus and bike bridge, if a highway tunnel could ever be built under the park and beside the LGB.
Unfortunately, the Vancouver Mind Virus (VMV) keeps getting in the way of progress. Just look at how short the Canada Line trains are.
You couldn't have a worse congestion scenario there.
https://www.westernstandard.news/topic/lions-gate-bridge An enduring 3 lane pathetic joke of a bridge! No bus & HOV tunnel & especially no train tunnel around there.
https://www.westernstandard.news/topic/ironworkers-memorial-bridge A 6 lane crossing that should have had at least 2 emegency lanes & 2 wide shoulders for future dmand. No bus & HOV bridge & especially no train bridge around there.
No one ever stopped the Horseshoe+Bay+ferry+terminal from being built. However, its like various people have done their damndest to make sure that no express bus lanes & no HOV lanes cross the inlet, & especially no rail rapid transit. It's so sad that the congestive planning folks keep rising to the top of the B$.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/north-shore-wastewater-treatment-plant-project-review-delayed
So much money has been wasted that could have otherwise have gone towards a train & bus bridge or a tunnel across the inlet.
The+Ironworkers-Bridge will still have to be upgraded or rebuilt and it should be on the scale of the New Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge. The New_Champlain_Bridge_in Montreal has 4 lanes each way, plus 2 train tracks. More things are possible in Montreal and Quebec, simply because they don't have anything like Vancouver's restrictions & the backwards BC B$ mentality to thwart them.
https://www.samueldechamplainbridge.ca/traffic-and-detours/
https://www.samueldechamplainbridge.ca/pedestrians-and-cyclists/
https://www.arup.com/projects/samuel-de-champlain-bridge-corridor/
https://montecristomagazine.com/community/forgotten-bridges-vancouver
The LGB just wasn't designed with any future capacity in mind.
History of the Lions Gate Bridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqi7Kijedw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Gate_Bridge#History
The inadequate 3 lane LGB is currently the most narrow road bridge in backwards & stubborn Vancouver. It's been in that category since the removal of the 2 lane Fraser Street Bridge in the 1970s. There was a refusal to twin the absurdly narrow LGB between the 1950s & 1970s. By the 1980s there should have been a subway tunnel and an 8 lane tunnel. Then two of the lanes could have been for buses. Georgia+Street is 7 lanes wide as it gets closer to Stanley Park. Thus, the main part of a tunnel through the park could have provided 3 general lanes each way & a bus lane each way. Instead, the 7 lanes of the westernmost part of Georgia Street are funneled into a 3 lane causeway & a 3 lane bridge. The LGB would be fantastic as just a bike & foot crossing, with train, bus & road tunnels well beneath & beside it.
The Burrard_Bridge, BB or BSB opened with 6 lanes, but now it only has 4 lanes. There are 2 bike lanes & 2 sidewalks. Had a parallel bike-bridge been built, the BB could have still had 6 lanes. While the BB has a lower level provision for streetcars or tram-trains, Vancouver did its damndest to phase out streetcars well before the 1960s.
The Ironworkers_Memorial_Bridge has 6 lanes, but should also have had 2 wide shoulders & 2 very wide sidewalks. Unfortunatly, there was no provision for a lower deck, as is also the case with all of the other Vancouver bridges. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Narrows_Crossing
Any replacement of the inadequate Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge should be on the scale of what Perth, Seattle and Montreal have done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Street_Bridge#Third_bridge_(1954)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=vPSdF0jRTC4 The Granville-Bridge or GSB is the widest bridge in the city limits. It opened with 8 lanes, but is being transformed into a 6 lane bridge with 2 bike lanes & 2 sidewalks. Had there been a paralel bike & foot bride, the GSB could have still been 8 lanes wide. Then there could have been 2 exclusive bus lanes.
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/granville-bridge-connector.aspx
The Oak Street Bridge should have been 8 lanes wide, with 2 wide sidewalks.
The Knight+Street+Bridge should have been 8 lanes with 2 wide sidewalks. Instead, its a 4 lane chokepoint.
The Arthur+Laing+Bridge should have been at least 6 lanes with 2 proper bike lanes & 2 sidewalks.
If the Cambie_Street_Bridge had 2 very wide sidewalks, then its likely that it would still have 6 lanes instead of 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambie_Bridge#The_present_bridge
Unfortunatly, bottleneck or chokepoint planning is part of the Vancouver & BC mentality.
Of course BC & the Metro+Vancouver Region just hasn't put enough funds and effort towards proper big-city planning & infrastructure development.
If Perth+and+Seattle had to conform to the extremely restrictive Vancouver approach to things, those cities would be in a perpetual state of chaos. Fortunately, nothing like the BC Mind Virus has ever reached WA.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Lions+Gate+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Oak+Street+and+Granville+Street
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Oak+Street+Bridge OSB
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/west-vancouver-home-sale-2188-westhill-wynd
A person can pay out all that money, but you don't get a French standard of transportation options, or even a Québec-Montreal quality of transportation. You are just stuck with a ridiculous 3 lane LGB and there are no plans to have any bus & train tunnels under that horrible chokepoint.
Any replacement for the Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge should be at least as wide as the Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge in Montreal. It's very difficult in BC to have crossings that have at least 4 lanes each way.
Far away from backwards Vancouver & backwater BC, the Narrows_Bridge_in_Perth-WA was part of a multi-section Bridge plan. 5 lanes each way, plus a Railway_bridge section, which has much longer trains than backwards Vancouver.
The Lacey_V._Murrow_Memorial_Bridge opened in 1940 with 4 lanes. Once the Homer_M._Hadley_Memorial_Bridge opened in 1989, the Lacey_V._Murrow_Memorial_Bridge could be renovated. This was all part of a plan to have an 8 lane crossing with 2 train tracks.
The Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge in Montreal opened in 2019. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge#Specifications
Vancouver might eventually try to have its own version of train & highway bridge to the North Shore. However, what's straightforward for Seattle & Montreal is difficult to accomplish in backwards Vancouver.
However, it takes a long time to get things done in BC. At least an 8 lane crossing with 2 train tracks should have been built there decades ago, but there is such a reluctance to think big & build BIG in Vancouver & BC, in general.
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2023/05/18/ironworkers-memorial-replacement-bc-transit/
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/north-shore-skytrain-burrard-inlet-rapid-transit-brt-lrt-study
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/upper-levels-highway-north-shore-upgrades-study
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/north-shore-rapid-transit-study-skytrain
Of course Seattle & Montreal would have an 8 lane crossing with 2 train tracks long before slow Vancouver would consider an upgrade to the inadequate Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge.
Hopefully, the first of dozens throughout the region.
As a proponent of transit oriented development, especially for housing, various BC transportation entities should have had a real estate development department decades ago. Then by now there could have been a series of bus and HOV bridges.
The inadequate Lions+Gate+Bridge should have had truck, bus & HOV tunnels next to it by the 1980s or 90s.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=The+Ironworkers-Bridge
https://www.mcelhanney.com/project/highway-1-keith-road-mt-seymour-parkway/
The North_Shore_(Greater_Vancouver) is designed to be heavily congested.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ironworkers-on-ramp-traffic-north-shore
The North+Shore should have at least 2 rapid transit train crossings.
There should have been a train, bus & HOV tunnel by the First Narrows generations ago.
There should have been a train, bus & HOV bridge beside the Iron Bridge decades ago.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/provincial-federal-municipal-governments-launch-north-bowinn-ma
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=214205&page=13
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=North+Shore+of+Greater+Vancouver
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/09/28/north-vancouver-lane-realignment-iron-workers-bridge/
Unfortunatly, the Iron Bridge wasn't designed with future capacity in mind. No emergency lanes, no bus-lanes and no provision for rail rapid transit.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/north-vancouver-lane-change-1.7336664
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=The+Ironworkers-Bridge
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ironworkers-memorial-bridge-lane-closures
Even from a late 1950s backwards BC perspective, there should have been at least 2 wide emergency lanes. 4 emergency lanes would have been even better, because in addition to 3 general lanes each way, a provision for 2 bus & HOV lanes would have been great. There also should have been a provision for a lower truck & train deck.
Of course any replacement bridge should not only provide 3 general lanes each way, but also 1 truck & 1 HOV lane each way. Then another section or level for at least 2 train tracks & 2 express bus lanes. Since BC doesn't like to provide 24hr train service, there must be 2 bus lanes always open, especially whenever the rail component is closed for maintenance or some emergency.
Unfortunatly, BC Bottleneck planning waters things down. Vancouver, Victoria & Kelowna like to excel in such congestive planning.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=The+Ironworkers-Bridge
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/metro-vancouver-bridge-cyclist-wire-allegations
Someone might have been very angry with bike people and not with car, bus & truck people. The real problem is that so much of the older BC infrastructure just wasn't designed to be more of a multi-modal crossing. The+Lion+Bridge+and+The+Iron+Bridge have no rail rapid transit crossings next them.
The Ironworkers-Bridge is so narrow for a highway bridge in that location & wasn't designed for substantial future capacity. When it was initially designed in the 1950s, there was no concept to have 2 bus lanes, 2 HOV lanes, 2 truck lanes & 2 emergency lanes for a port city. Plus, at least 2 general traffic lanes each way & a provision for 2 train tracks. Thus, the 6 lane bridge is so overwhelmed, because it just can't do the job of an 8-10 lane wide bridge. While the Iron Bridge has 2 improved bike+lanes, they are part of the sidewalks.
The former 8 lane Granville+Street will have 6 lanes, while the & Oak+Street only has 4 lanes. The inadequate Oak+Street+Bridge (OSB) should have opened with at least 8 lanes, instead of only 4. Plus, 2 wide emergency lanes & 2 wide sidewalks. There still should be a new southbound OS Bridge, but the city would be against it. A narrow 4 lane bridge just doesn't have the space & capacity for 2 express bus lanes, 2 HOV & 2 truck lanes. Apparently, it's better to just funnel everything into only 2 lanes each way.
The OSB should be twinned or replace with something like the Samuel-De_Champlain_Bridge in Montreal. The largest city in Quebec is allowed to have a nice wide bridge & long metro trains, because Quebec isn't bound by anything like the backwards BC mentality.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-montreals-new-44-billion-champlain-bridge-opens-to-traffic-for Fortunatly, the Vancouver mentality wasn't able to ever reach back to Montreal & prevent such a nice modern bridge from being built there. https://www.flatironcorp.com/project/champlain-bridge If you are from Montreal & have visited Vancouver, you will be surprise to see how much shorter an underground Vancouver train station is than what is allowed underground in Montreal, Toronto, Edmonton, Seattle, SF & LA...
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/granville-bridge-connector.aspx A bike & foot bridge should have been built next to it decades ago. Then the Granville+Bridge could have 3 general lanes each way, plus a bus & HOV lane each way. Instead, if 2 bus & HOV lanes are designated, there will only be 2 general lanes each way in the downtown core.
The Burrard Bridge should have had a bike & foot bride next to it. Instead, it was reduced from a 6 lane crossing to a 4 lane bridge.
The very narrow Oak+Street+Bridge & the Knight Street Bridge, should have had bus+and+bike+bridges built next to them decades ago.
Most bridges in Vancouver & the metropolitan region just weren't designed with that much future capacity in mind, especially for buses & HOV lanes. Thus, it's a travesty that by now, almost every crossing should have had bus & bike bridges built next to them.
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/walk-bike-and-transit.aspx Unfortunatly, provisions for bus & bike lanes just weren't the thing to do several decades ago in BC.
A truck lane is just as important as a bus & HOV lane. That's because freight should be efficiently & easily be transported in any major urban region.
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/trucks-commercial-and-oversize-vehicles.aspx
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Oak+Street+and+Granville+Street
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Iron+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Lion+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Burrard+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Granville+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Oak+Street+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=the+missing+element
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/north-shore-skytrain-burrard-inlet-rapid-transit-brt-lrt-study
Since the planned North_Shore train won't be running 24 hours a day, there should be at least 1 bus & 1 HOV lane for each direction. There should also be 2 truck lanes & at least 2 wide emergency lanes. Unfortunately, the Ironworkers-Memorial-Bridge-replacement-concept only depicts 3 general lanes each way, plus only 2 extra lanes that could become a bus & HOV lane. The shoulders don't look like they will be as wide as a regular lane, but still might barely function as an emergency lane for fire-trucks, etc. There also doesn't look like any provision for a bike & foot path for both sides of the bridge.
Thus, once again, it's a narrow-minded Vancouver & especially a backward BC bridge, being designed to be narrower than what it should be.
https://vancouvertraces.weebly.com/the-first-and-second-narrows-crossings.html
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/bc-united-north-shore-skytrain-ironworkers-memorial-bridge
The original Second+Narrows+Bridge could be upgraded and become part of an improved crossing.
Either a rapid-bus crossing first, or a train crossing with 2 buss lanes for whenever the train is shut down. The NW Skybridge wasn't designed to have 2 bus & 2 bike lanes & 2 footpaths. Thus, the SkyBridge to Surrey remains as a fine inept example of backward BC planning.
The North-Arm-Bridge to Richmond was also not designed to have 2 bus lanes, 2 bike lanes & 2 footpaths. Just one combined bike & footpath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Arm_Bridge
Unfortunately, Greater Vancouver doesn't want to provide 24hr trains. Yet, there seems to be a reluctance to have a series of regional bus-bridges, because most of the existing bridges are too narrow to have 2 extra bus lanes.
https://vancouvertraces.weebly.com/the-first-and-second-narrows-crossings.html
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=North+Shore+of+Greater+Vancouver
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ironworkers-memorial-bridge-collapse-1958-1.5615447
https://www.ironworkers.ca/58-years-second-narrows-bridge-collapse-lost-lives-not-forgotten/
The Iron Bridge has heled up very well through the decades, but it just wasn't designed with future bus, truck lanes and LRT capacity in mind.
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge
https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/9780784481035.014
Unfortunately, when the Iron Bridge was rebuilt, there was no concept for a couple of bus lanes.
There should have been at least 2 emergency lanes, but it was decide to just jam everything into only 3 lanes each way.
https://vancouversun.com/news/this-day-in-history-june-17-1958
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/second-narrows-bridge-collapse
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2018TRAN0045-001202
https://www.ironworkers.ca/58-years-second-narrows-bridge-collapse-lost-lives-not-forgotten/
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Second+Narrows+Bridge
https://jfdatalinks.blogspot.com/search?q=Ironworkers+Memorial+Bridge
Of course there are bridges in and around Greater LA Area. However, it most an urbanized land mass.
Cities like Seattle, Portland, SF, NYC, Montreal, Boston & Vancouver require an extensive bridge & or tunnel system to keep each region effectively connected.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-lions-gate-ironworkers-bridge-ship-collision-collapse-risk
Vancouver & the metropolitan area already has a deficit of adequate bridges. There should have been about a dozen bus & bike bridges over the past few decades. Improved existing bridges to allow for HOV lanes, but Vancouver & the greater region are too afraid to go beyond the chokepoint mentality. Apparently, congestive planning is always the best way to go in BC. There isn't enough bridge redundancy, so if anything goes wrong, the region will only get more blocked up.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/ironworkers-memorial-bridge-replacement